M&MD: 02/04/08: Eat some BIG BLUE Crow!!!!

oh brother.....i would say I can't believe what they just said but i can.

Here's two guys that never played the sport....and one guy who claims tennis as his fav sport...telling two...TWO super bowl MVPs that they are wrong. Cameras caught Peyton and Eli talking about how it is better to be down 4 on a final drive so you have to be more aggressive ....and Peyton and Eli saying how they talked about it earlier in the week.....

YET..of course Fatso and Fruitloop know better cause they've been inside the helmet and can tell you no way you want to be down 3 so you can kick a FG...oye

How can you be that worried about chunking down deep fried greasy potatoes and tube steaks during a game like that? What a pig.

it's ok, it wouldn't be too distracting. mike pays a small phillipino boy to hand feed him when he's on the road.

It's funny Mike complaining that something at a ballpark is overpriced.

How many times has he yelled at a caller for complaining that ticket prices or food is overpriced at Yankee games or Mets games etc. telling the caller that if you don't like it then don't go.

What a hippo crite.

To be fair he wasn't complaining about the overpriced stuff. He was saying you had people there ready to pay $120 for a $20 souvenir, and they had "two old ladys" at the booth with a thousand people ready to buy. He was complaining about Roe having to wait an hour to buy something to bring back home. He understands the markups and was fine with it.

Mike and Chris had a problem with Strahan's edgy post game speech. I wonder what they'd think of this?

From ESPN.com:

The Giants didn't have anything positive to say about Patriots defensive end Richard Seymour after their Super Bowl win. Apparently, Seymour told some New York offensive players that they "should be ready to go home" before their last drive. That comment irritated Toomer, and it still bothered Giants running back Brandon Jacobs in the locker room.



"I'll give you a quote on Seymour," Jacobs said. "You can write that he's a soft [expletive]. He said we should get ready to go home. Well, now he's on the team that went 18-1."

oh brother.....i would say I can't believe what they just said but i can.

Here's two guys that never played the sport....and one guy who claims tennis as his fav sport...telling two...TWO super bowl MVPs that they are wrong. Cameras caught Peyton and Eli talking about how it is better to be down 4 on a final drive so you have to be more aggressive ....and Peyton and Eli saying how they talked about it earlier in the week.....

YET..of course Fatso and Fruitloop know better cause they've been inside the helmet and can tell you no way you want to be down 3 so you can kick a FG...oye

I have taken to counting how many times the big blowhard latches onto a particular term when he is pontificating. During this enlightining lesson on NFL tactics, he glommed on to "field goal in your pocket" and said it four times within 3 seconds.

How can you be that worried about chunking down deep fried greasy potatoes and tube steaks during a game like that? What a pig.

I know. The game is 4 hours long. He can't stop eating for 4 hours? What a slob.

"big receiver" - 8 times in 2 seconds

Mike and Chris had a problem with Strahan's edgy post game speech. I wonder what they'd think of this?

From ESPN.com:

The Giants didn't have anything positive to say about Patriots defensive end Richard Seymour after their Super Bowl win. Apparently, Seymour told some New York offensive players that they "should be ready to go home" before their last drive. That comment irritated Toomer, and it still bothered Giants running back Brandon Jacobs in the locker room.

"I'll give you a quote on Seymour," Jacobs said. "You can write that he's a soft [expletive]. He said we should get ready to go home. Well, now he's on the team that went 18-1."

Good find. In Toomer's press conference and whenever he was interviewed he brought up the Pats 19-0 book...the fact that they copyrighted 19-0, that on the field on the last drive the Pats players were inviting them to all the Patriot victory parties and told the Giants players they're going home. Toomer said you just don't tempt fate like that...

Because everyone is as petty, arrogant and ego driven as Mike and Chris, Tiki must be hurting.

Memo to M&MD. It is possible for people to actually move on and feel good for people when they do good, even when they are not around.

I'll use myself as a example. My high school team finally made the playoffs they year after I graduated (my senior year we lost the last game). But I wasn't hurt, I was happy for my friends still on the team and wished them well. I'd think that would be the more natural reaction, than to feel bad about it.

Because everyone is as petty, arrogant and ego driven as Mike and Chris, Tiki must be hurting.

Memo to M&MD. It is possible for people to actually move on and feel good for people when they do good, even when they are not around.

I'll use myself as a example. My high school team finally made the playoffs they year after I graduated (my senior year we lost the last game). But I wasn't hurt, I was happy for my friends still on the team and wished them well. I'd think that would be the more natural reaction, than to feel bad about it.

Excellent observation. Some people are gracious and accepting of other's success, while some feel envy. Russo and Francesa are two such individuals, exposed by virtue of their own words.

Good find. In Toomer's press conference and whenever he was interviewed he brought up the Pats 19-0 book...the fact that they copyrighted 19-0, that on the field on the last drive the Pats players were inviting them to all he Patriot victory parties and told the players they're going home. Toomer said you just don't tempt fate like that...

I love Brandon Jacobs quote by the way. But yes watching those cheaters get their comeuppance, especially that dirty j*** off Harrison, makes this Super Bowl even more gratifying. What a run!

Because everyone is as petty, arrogant and ego driven as Mike and Chris, Tiki must be hurting.

Memo to M&MD. It is possible for people to actually move on and feel good for people when they do good, even when they are not around.

I'll use myself as a example. My high school team finally made the playoffs they year after I graduated (my senior year we lost the last game). But I wasn't hurt, I was happy for my friends still on the team and wished them well. I'd think that would be the more natural reaction, than to feel bad about it.

Why do people continue to compare their high school football days with the NFL?

Because everyone is as petty, arrogant and ego driven as Mike and Chris, Tiki must be hurting.

Memo to M&MD. It is possible for people to actually move on and feel good for people when they do good, even when they are not around.

I'll use myself as a example. My high school team finally made the playoffs they year after I graduated (my senior year we lost the last game). But I wasn't hurt, I was happy for my friends still on the team and wished them well. I'd think that would be the more natural reaction, than to feel bad about it.

I'd agree w/you to a point. I think the thing that kills Tiki is that he is hated by 75% of the Giants players and organization.

I'm sure your hs teammates weren't dogging you after they won and saying you leaving was instrumental in them winning. The Giants have said in thinly veiled shots that Tiki leaving actually helped them get to where they are.

Why do people continue to compare their high school football days with the NFL?

Clearly because it was the highlight of our lives!

:)

I'd agree w/you to a point. I think the thing that kills Tiki is that he is hated by 75% of the Giants players and organization.

I'm sure your hs teammates weren't dogging you after they won and saying you leaving was instrumental in them winning. The Giants have said in thinly veiled shots that Tiki leaving actually helped them get to where they are.

I wasn't comparing myself to Tiki per se, I'm just saying that it isn't impossible for someone in Tiki's position to actually not take it personally. Dog is saying as a human being you'd have to be hurting, and I'm saying not necessarily.

Note to M&MD - the 2% of callers who get through who are Giants' fans who are complaining about Shockey do NOT represent the rest of the Giants' fans. I know I don't speak for all Giants fans but I sure don't feel that way about Shockey and for sure can't wait to get him back on the field. Again this notion that every single Giant fan hates Shockey now and want him gone is just ridiculous.

I wasn't comparing myself to Tiki per se, I'm just saying that it isn't impossible for someone in Tiki's position to actually not take it personally. Dog is saying as a human being you'd have to be hurting, and I'm saying not necessarily.

I'm with you....but in this case....IMO...I think it eats Tiki up.

I'm with you....but in this case....IMO...I think it eats Tiki up.

You're probably right, as Tiki seems to share a lot in common with our hosts, in terms of ego and all.

Mike: "Giants fans have come home to roost about Shockey. I was alone out there for a while."

Mike definitely has personal issues with Shockey ever since he blew off a weekly spot on the FAN, then later said Mike will die of a heart attack.

Has Dennis called in yet?

Note to M&MD - the 2% of callers who get through who are Giants' fans who are complaining about Shockey do NOT represent the rest of the Giants' fans. I know I don't speak for all Giants fans but I sure don't feel that way about Shockey and for sure can't wait to get him back on the field. Again this notion that every single Giant fan hates Shockey now and want him gone is just ridiculous.

Be careful... these guys have problems with complex situations. Mike gets angry and abusive when things don't fit into his narrow worldview. And Dog just ignores it as though it never happened.

Mike: "Giants fans have come home to roost about Shockey. I was alone out there for a while."

Mike definitely has personal issues with Shockey ever since he blew off a weekly spot on the FAN, then later said Mike will die of a heart attack.

Has Dennis called in yet?

please see my sig :D

just saw ratings on SNY - most viewers ever for a super bowl..97.5 million

Holy god how did i miss this? Tiki interviewed Eli in the tunnel after the game and it aired on the Today Show this morning.. crap!

ive heard pitch and catch 20 times in the last hour

15 from quadry ismail and 5 from mike golic


maybe tanks a trendsetter

an "illegal" commercial break? Quick..someone call the cops!!!

anyone notice that there have been exactly no giants, neither players nor coaches, not even the waterboy, on this show... the day after the most historic game in giants' history? have m&md offended everybody?

Would very much enjoy a scenario where WFAN does not renew Russo's contract and let's Francesa do the show by himself.

Can't see ratings falling off dramatically, if at all.

Why pay Russo a few million dollars a year when you don't have to do it.

No one is going to pick him up for 7 figure money if he gets cut from The FAN

Now that they have signed Francesa to a long term deal for big $$, there is no reason to pay Russo.

Would very much enjoy a scenario where WFAN does not renew Russo's contract and let's Francesa do the show by himself.

Can't see ratings falling off dramatically, if at all.

Why pay Russo a few million dollars a year when you don't have to do it.

No one is going to pick him up for 7 figure money if he gets cut from The FAN

Now that they have signed Francesa to a long term deal for big $$, there is no reason to pay Russo.

maybe russo could hook up with kay

Would very much enjoy a scenario where WFAN does not renew Russo's contract and let's Francesa do the show by himself.

Can't see ratings falling off dramatically, if at all.

Why pay Russo a few million dollars a year when you don't have to do it.

No one is going to pick him up for 7 figure money if he gets cut from The FAN

Now that they have signed Francesa to a long term deal for big $$, there is no reason to pay Russo.

I'm going to have to disagree with you MM. I think it is Dog that drives the show and Mike alone would alienate listeners. Dog would do just fine by himself and would be worth the money IMO. And they drive me crazy equally so not playing favorites. :) Just giving an opinion on how it would go if they were separated.

More Mike hypocrisy. Early in the season one of his themes was how there were very few good starting QBs in the NFL. He brought up players from 10-15 years ago like Bubby Brister and Neil O'Donnell and claimed there was much more quality depth among starting QBs in the league. He said that after Brady and Manning and maybe Palmer there weren't too many good QBs.

I thought it was an absurd hypothesis as you have a lot of young starting QBs that are still developing, and he was making it seem like average QBs from 10-15 years ago would be All Pros today.

Well, Favre had a great year as did Romo, and now Mike says that the 3 QBs from Eli's class have all turned out to be great. So, which one is it Mike? Are there hardly any good QBs, or do half the teams in the league suddenly have "great" QBs?

holy god that was the worst live commercial read by russo for Vermont Teddy Bear.....I'd want a refund for that garbled mess.

anyone notice that there have been exactly no giants, neither players nor coaches, not even the waterboy, on this show... the day after the most historic game in giants' history? have m&md offended everybody?

It's unbelievable, not even an assistant coach or something. And Joe & Evan only had on Carl Banks, another retired Giant. Some "flagship" station.

Mike complaining they ran out of food! I'm sure he was leading that mutiny. And now the field was fine. Last week it was going to cost the Giants the game.

A great YOUTUBE clip.

anyone notice that there have been exactly no giants, neither players nor coaches, not even the waterboy, on this show... the day after the most historic game in giants' history? have m&md offended everybody?

Yeah I noticed. I wonder how difficult it would be to get a David Tyree on. Granted finding the players might be a little difficult. But you figure they'd be able to find someone.

It's unbelievable, not even an assistant coach or something. And Joe & Evan only had on Carl Banks, another retired Giant. Some "flagship" station.

ThaT's because the Giants are on a plane flying back to Newark.

If she's going to proclaim her love for the Giants then I'd expect her to at least watch their biggest game all year.

Hillary wouldn't know the difference between Antonio Pierce and Hawkeye Pierce.

Dog on end of football season: "Thank God, let's get to baseball already! Where's Tim Lincecum?" lol

And that my friends pretty much sums up their feelings on sports..

Russo - "Tomorrow will be your last day of Giants football for the year. Thank God...let's get to some baseball already."

Dog with a classic line to end the show

"So tomorrow is the last day for Giants fans, thank God we can finally get to some baseball. where's Tim Lincecum"

Agree with the dog, looking forward to baseball talk.

I suspect tomorrow will be the last time I listen to WFAN (and hence being on this board) for a while, based on Russo's ending comments.

And that my friends pretty much sums up their feelings on sports..

Russo - "Tomorrow will be your last day of Giants football for the year. Thank God...let's get to some baseball already."

lol what a bore

one of the greatest super bowls ever and he wants to talk baseball before pitchers and catchers even report

this guys a huge sports fan?

hes a baseball groupie

Generally when the local team wins the Super Bowl, I would expect to hear more than two days on it, but hey, what do I know!

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Sun Feb 3, 11:35 PM ET



ST. PAUL, Minn. - Democrat Hillary Clinton became a super fan of the New York Giants on Sunday, revelling in their upset of the New England Patriots - and even seeing an omen for her own political future.

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"Super Bowl, Super Tuesday, we've got one down, let's get the other," said Clinton. Clinton had said she was banking on the "New York team" to carry the day in football's biggest test and in a mega-round of primaries next Tuesday. With their 17-14 win, the Giants held up their end of the bargain.

Clinton held a campaign rally in Minneapolis but gathered with about 200 backers at a local sports bar to watch football's biggest event.

When New York scored the go-ahead touchdown with 35 seconds remaining, Clinton leaped up and high-fived some young people standing near.

"That was unbelievable," she said.

"Oh my gosh."

Filing out of the room after the game, Clinton gushed: "I'm so excited, I'm thrilled."

"It was a fabulous game."

last week, they asked hillary if she was a giants' fan and she said yes, but not as much since they moved to san francisco.

Generally when the local team wins the Super Bowl, I would expect to hear more than two days on it, but hey, what do I know!

if this was the mets or ynakees the nfl season wouldnt exist on wfan

the guys a clown

if u come off one of the greaetest super bowls ever how are u tired of it after one day and are looking to talk baseball already?

the bad part is i think tna kleads that way to now,he was talking yankees and santana last night

And that my friends pretty much sums up their feelings on sports..

Russo - "Tomorrow will be your last day of Giants football for the year. Thank God...let's get to some baseball already."

If I didn't know any better, I'd wonder if he said that to tick off this board. :)

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Sun Feb 3, 11:35 PM ET



ST. PAUL, Minn. - Democrat Hillary Clinton became a super fan of the New York Giants on Sunday, revelling in their upset of the New England Patriots - and even seeing an omen for her own political future.

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"Super Bowl, Super Tuesday, we've got one down, let's get the other," said Clinton. Clinton had said she was banking on the "New York team" to carry the day in football's biggest test and in a mega-round of primaries next Tuesday. With their 17-14 win, the Giants held up their end of the bargain.

Clinton held a campaign rally in Minneapolis but gathered with about 200 backers at a local sports bar to watch football's biggest event.

When New York scored the go-ahead touchdown with 35 seconds remaining, Clinton leaped up and high-fived some young people standing near.

"That was unbelievable," she said.

"Oh my gosh."

Filing out of the room after the game, Clinton gushed: "I'm so excited, I'm thrilled."

"It was a fabulous game."


I'm surprised Hillary didn't propose the Giants start the game ahead 12-0, at kickoff.

Anytime socialists profess their love for sports, I am quite amused. For if they were to extend their political philosophies to sports, you'd have a point spread to adjust the scores of the games at the beginning to benefit the team that was 'persecuted' 'disadvantaged' etc, or, each team would finish the season 8-8, and then cancel the playoffs. This is to me the equivlaent of the 'progressive' income tax scam that is perpetually indoctrinated by socialists and is declared 'fair'. Yet, if you were to use that same philosophy in sports, the team that was designated the handicap obstacle (in this case the Patriots) would be screaming, and rightfully so.

And don't forget www.19and0.com

Definitely bad Karma. ::D

Hillary a giants fan, please. We all remember the photos of her in the Cubs hat, when running for NYS she was a yankee fan. What a carpet bagger!! Lets try and keep politics off this board.

And don't forget www.19and0.com

What was it?? Was there something on the site? Right now it just goes to the holding page from GoDaddy...

I did a whois search on Netsol and it says some company/guy in SF owns it...

I'm surprised Hillary didn't propose the Giants start the game ahead 12-0, at kickoff.

Anytime socialists profess their love for sports, I am quite amused. For if they were to extend their political philosophies to sports, you'd have a point spread to adjust the scores of the games at the beginning to benefit the team that was 'persecuted' 'disadvantaged' etc, or, each team would finish the season 8-8, and then cancel the playoffs. This is to me the equivlaent of the 'progressive' income tax scam that is perpetually indoctrinated by socialists and is declared 'fair'. Yet, if you were to use that same philosophy in sports, the team that was designated the handicap obstacle (in this case the Patriots) would be screaming, and rightfully so.Ah, Mike, the NFL practices a form of socialism, and that's one of the things that has made it so successful. You always rail against baseball because small market teams have no shot in your opinion, and the only fix to that is obviously a form of socialism.

Don't be fooled by Hillary. She's no socialist. If she were, I highly doubt rabid neoconservative Bill Kristol would have referred to her as a "responsible Democrat" and intimated that he would support her publicly except for the fact that it would hurt her chances. This, and her unwavering support of Israel, are what keeps the money flowing to her campaign. Just follow the money.

Who has the cleanest money trail? You know who, Mike.;)

anyone notice that there have been exactly no giants, neither players nor coaches, not even the waterboy, on this show... the day after the most historic game in giants' history? have m&md offended everybody?

In fairness to them, the entire traveling party has been airborne for the entire show. 5 hour flight landed before 7pm, and given that they started at 2p,, can't get all wrapped up in it.

I know this was mentioned before but Mike blatantly ripping off from Simmons column today and making it seem like it was his own observations:

Mike: You know I know a lot of Pats fans who were more interested in getting in to the Pats 19-0 postgame party. And it bugged them that their golden boy QB is shaking hands with Pat O'Brien before the game.

Dog (clueless) : Oh really?

Mike: Yup, a lot of Pats fans feel their quarterback is going Hollywood.

Yo Mike why don't you admit that whenever you say "a lot of Pats fans" can we just all assume that you mean "per Simmons column which I just read five minutes ago.."

I think this pic says it all

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/02/03/1202091873_5822.jpg

tank making fun of the fact that there is tons of merch available after the Giants win. Yeah, cause the same thing doesn't happen whenever the Yanks win a championship. ******bag

I get in the car today and this is the first thing i hear come out of his mouth today. I wanted to punch the radio.

But you know, mike doesent believe in memoabillia or shirts with team logos on them. Only us peons have any interest in buying things like that, thats way below the great fatman.

is it true the tubster francessa said the stadium ran outta food and he & roe almost caused a riot?

Does anyone have a picture of roe? is she a tub o lard as well?

In the first quarter! He also poo pooed the stadium club

Amazing --Dog has 4 kids and millions and doesn't buy any souvenirs....

MD: Hey Timmy, I wanted to buy you something, but I just couldn't get into the whole thing, the whole atmosphere, not to mention I was in a tight spot with the game going on...

LMAO

maybe he got some little grab bag with pencils from the media events

tubby the 1st quarter was 3-0 NOT 7-3 damn this guy know nuffin

I was saying that too! If you had 7-3 you only won two quarters in those "box" pools!

And that my friends pretty much sums up their feelings on sports..

Russo - "Tomorrow will be your last day of Giants football for the year. Thank God...let's get to some baseball already."

I tend to think he was kidding!

They will be talking Giants the rest of the week. Coughlin and Pierce will defenitley be on as I am sure some others will be except maybe Eli who will be on Kay

I know this was mentioned before but Mike blatantly ripping off from Simmons column today and making it seem like it was his own observations:

Mike: You know I know a lot of Pats fans who were more interested in getting in to the Pats 19-0 postgame party. And it bugged them that their golden boy QB is shaking hands with Pat O'Brien before the game.

Dog (clueless) : Oh really?

Mike: Yup, a lot of Pats fans feel their quarterback is going Hollywood.

Yo Mike why don't you admit that whenever you say "a lot of Pats fans" can we just all assume that you mean "per Simmons column which I just read five minutes ago.."

from the article

1. Before the pregame introductions, the Patriots were jogging off the field and the Jumbotron caught Brady briefly break stride to shake hands with Pat O'Brien. This bothered me for some reason -- somewhere along the line, the team and the quarterback almost became too famous, as symbolized by that handshake and the fact Brady would have run right by O'Brien six years ago because he would have wanted to flip out in the tunnel and inexplicably head-butt Bledsoe over and over again. Look, I'm not blaming Brady for the handshake. This was the season when his fame transcended sports and morphed into something else, and part of that "something else" involves the occasional random pregame handshake with the likes of Pat O'Brien. You have to do things like this when you're famous, even if you don't really want to do them. At the same time, I thought this was a terrible omen and a defining moment of the season. In the Super Bowl, you'd much rather be the "Nobody believes in us!" team than the "Not only does everybody believe in us, but our QB shakes hands before games with Pat O'Brien" team. You just would.

2. Speaking of Brady, if the Patriots had finished 19-0, I planned to start my column with a scene from the Patriots' postgame party. Through some mutual friends, I had arranged to hang out with Brady's crew for what promised to be a laid-back celebration in somebody's hotel room, probably no more than 15-20 people since Brady's circle is surprisingly and refreshingly small. Because it was a rare chance to catch Brady in an unguarded moment -- and an important moment at that -- I spent most of Friday and Saturday thinking about that first paragraph and all the different ways it could start. I kept seeing Brady sitting in a chair with his right ankle encased in ice, quietly sipping a bottle of champagne with a satisfied smile on his face, and Gisele would be there, and everyone would be recapping 19-0 and remembering the incredible season. I liked the thought of a famous person celebrating a historic night in such a totally normal and relatable way. And that's what it will remain. A thought and only a thought. It never happened.

perhaps Simmons was the Pats fan that Mikey knows?