Our Mod reports Obama will drop out of race.

If this turns out to be true, you could have the scoop of the year. Is anyone else reporting this?

http://www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=844

High level source confirms Barack Obama will drop out of the race by July 1, 2008
March 29th, 2008 · No Comments

A high level source within the Democratic party has revealed to this website that Barack Obama is formulating plans to drop out of the 2008 Democratic primary sometime before July 1, 2008.

The information is coming from top people in his campaign. The source states that Obama is worried about a couple of high profile negative stories that could be unleased in the coming months.

The Obama campaign is studying Al Gore’s famous 2000 concession speech in an attempt to maintain his viability for national politics in the future.

The source is not sure what potential negative news the Obama campaign is worried about. Rumors abound of possible more inflammatory Jeremiah Wright videos, an anti-American, anti-White paper that Obama wrote in college, further allegations of drug use (beyond the already admitted cocaine use) in his years as an Illinois State Senator.

According to staff insiders, Obama has no illusions that dropping out of the race would prevent the bad news from getting out. However this time Obama feels by dropping out early, he would gain the respect of the entire Democratic party and its electorate, and he would be able to deal with the negative news on his terms.

At the end of Feb, Hillary was 8.7 million dollars in debt, including 292K in unpaid insurance premiums.


Obama has weaknesses, to be sure, but she simply will not have spending power to make it till 1 July.

I don't believe Barack is leaving the race.

I don't believe Barack is leaving the race.

May not happen again in the next two decades, that is, me and Racks in agreement. I think this is a pure internet rumor founded on nothing. Ain't the first, won't be the last.

You said it.

Ahead in delegates and popular vote and he leaves the race??? No way. If these so called negative stories were so bad, the Clintons would have found them and unleashed them already.

<hand wave>

Any updates on this story?

Did Obama drop out yet?

Good Riddance this guy is trouble.

Hes freinds with anti-american bastards, he has relations to two crazy moronic preachers. He is linked with that other crazy *** Louis Farrakhan. The guy is a mess.

Not to mention that guy from his campaign stole money or something.

November 5th will be Obama's drop out day.

Biggest political media creation in the history of politics.

You aren't kidding. Its like no one except for FOX News and right-wing radio wants to touch him.

Good Riddance this guy is trouble.

Hes freinds with anti-american bastards, he has relations to two crazy moronic preachers. He is linked with that other crazy *** Louis Farrakhan. The guy is a mess.

Not to mention that guy from his campaign stole money or something.

Your kidding right?

Everyone has a few moronic freinds no?

McCain is freinds with Bush?

My boy, ahem, upped his street cred, ahem, by going to Afghanistan while getting, ahem, an endorcement, ahem from Iraqi stooge Al-Maliki. What happened to his original plan of pulling the troops out in 60 days? And I don't like how he through Reverend Wright under da bus!

November 5th will be Obama's drop out day.

Biggest political media creation in the history of politics.


May your post be prophetic, oh great one.

What ever happens don't blame me, I'm voting for Kodos....

Your kidding right?

Everyone has a few moronic freinds no?

McCain is freinds with Bush?

How can you compare Bush (just a plain idiot) to Farrakhan, a man who has said "Hitler was a great man"!

oh please..

How can you compare Bush (just a plain idiot) to Farrakhan, a man who has said "Hitler was a great man"!

oh please..


Oh Please? Like you don't have some friends that are total a**holes?

Bottom line is policy not what church you go to. I belong to a church, and I disagree with about 90% of what they say, but my wife's family goes there so I bite my lip about it.

If Obama can stop this deficit spending and bring some strength back to the dollar and get some growth out of the stock market he will be my hero.

After the last eight years I would trust him a lot more then father time over there.

Who knows he might even catch Osama Bin-Laden? Remember him?

Oh Please? Like you don't have some friends that are total a**holes?
Bottom line is policy not what church you go to. I belong to a church, and I disagree with about 90% of what they say, but my wife's family goes there so I bite my lip about it.

If Obama can stop this deficit spending and bring some strength back to the dollar and get some growth out of the stock market he will be my hero.
After the last eight years I would trust him a lot more then father time over there.

Who knows he might even catch Osama Bin-Laden? Remember him?

1) Im not running for president, Barrack Obama is, so whether I have ********* friends is irrelevant.

2)McCain is all about wanting to cut the spending (or as he puts it porkbarrel spending), Ive never heard Obama disscuss that.

3)McCain is the one Ive time and time and again heard speak of bringing Osama bin Laden to justice, Obama simply has not.

So basically everything you said is what McCain has been preaching throughout his entire run for president. While all we heard from Mr. Obama is hope. And yes we can. And anti-american rhetoric.

Oh Please? Like you don't have some friends that are total a**holes?
Bottom line is policy not what church you go to. I belong to a church, and I disagree with about 90% of what they say, but my wife's family goes there so I bite my lip about it.

If Obama can stop this deficit spending and bring some strength back to the dollar and get some growth out of the stock market he will be my hero.
After the last eight years I would trust him a lot more then father time over there.

Who knows he might even catch Osama Bin-Laden? Remember him?

1) Im not running for president, Barrack Obama is, so whether I have ********* friends is irrelevant.

2)McCain is all about wanting to cut the spending (or as he puts it porkbarrel spending), Ive never heard Obama disscuss that.

3)McCain is the one Ive time and time and again heard speak of bringing Osama bin Laden to justice, Obama simply has not.

So basically everything you said is what McCain has been preaching throughout his entire run for president. While all we heard from Mr. Obama is hope. And yes we can. And anti-american rhetoric.

The war in Iraq is the economy, it never should have been waged, it has caused massive inflation that is just starting!! We must stop printing money to fight a war that makes Bush/McCain freinds rich. The GOP will declare victory once we have paid everyone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csKkdKlLUTc

Obvisouly you watch a little to much fox news because all Obama talks about is getting out of Iraq and finding Osama Bin-Laden.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

The best way to secure long-term peace and security is to establish a stable, prosperous, and democratic state in Iraq that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists. When Iraqi forces can safeguard their own country, American troops can return home.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

The best way to secure long-term peace and security is to establish a stable, prosperous, and democratic state in Iraq that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists. When Iraqi forces can safeguard their own country, American troops can return home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo

just tell me what bush has to do with McCain's future plans!?

November 5th will be Obama's drop out day.

Biggest political media creation in the history of politics.

Would you care to revise that prediction?

Again when is Obama dropping out? McCain should pray he lives longer than next week.

Ha, Obama will formally concede on election night, as soon as Ohio goes to McCain.

I think Obama wishes he had his VP choice back, the Clinton voters are going to send him a note of thanks on election day.

Oh please, The internal polls must be terrible for McCain for him to resort to this risky of a VP choice. This could very well blow up in his face. Does he think women that supported Hillary are going to vote for him and Palin now just because she is a woman? Does he really think Hillary supporters are that dumb? She stands for everything Hillary Clinton is against and is completely unqualified. Yeah it is going to be a landslide on election night...just not the way you are calling it.

KARL ROVE ON OBAMA's VP DECISION:



"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."

Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"

KARL ROVE ON OBAMA's VP DECISION:



"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."

Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"


Priceless!!!!

I dont care what anyone says, palin is great!

She hunts, shes anti-abortion, christian, and shes the first cool politician Ive seen in a long while.

McCain is not going anywhere, so you dont have to worry about Palin being president. And I doubt Biden could do a good job as president if anything happens to Obama. Obama talks about fixing washington, and how hes there for change. Well his VP pick has been in politics and washington for like 30 years, so change my a-s-s! WHILE Palin has been a reformer her entire career, and had a big role in stopping the corrupt government in Alaska! THATS change!

I think Palin is exciting. He chose her (in my opinion) to get more evangelicals, since palin is so conservative. I mean, Im not getting too wrapped up in that whole "choose a woman-to get-hillary voters" scenario. It was more to get the evangelical conservative vote, like I said.

KARL ROVE ON OBAMA's VP DECISION:



"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."

Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"

Palin singlehandedly got rid of the corrupt government in Alaska. And she is big on reforming. Thats something important shes done. Unlike this guy Rove was talking about.

So I say, to that:

>>HANDWAVE<<

Can someone point to one risky political decision Obama has made? His speech against the war in Iraq was not risky, he was running for the state Senate, the majority of people in his district lean to the left and thus would be against that war.

He is a black man running for President of the United States.

The more and more people see Sarah Palin, the less they are going to like her. Yeah, hardcore conservatives will love her, but they were probably going to hold thier nose and vote for McCain anyway. She does not help with independents or Hillary women AT ALL. She is further to the right than Bush, which is pretty hard to do. McCain said yesterday that she was "his soulmate" and he's been "following her career for years" which is a complete lie. There was a report that McCain had only met her once and talked to her twice!! There was also no serious vetting done unlike Obama's choice of Biden which was extremely meticulous and thought out. If he did some research, he would have known these things about Sarah Palin:

-She was almost recalled as mayor of Wasilla, AK. Maybe because she fired some of the town's employees for "not fully supporting her efforts to govern." She tried to censor the library.She also left Wasilla in 20 million dollars of debt. Mind you this is a town of 6,000 people.

- There is an ongoing investigation of Palin using her power as govenor to fire the Public Safety Comissioner who would not get rid of her ex-brother in law, a state trooper.

-She doesn't know what the VP job does

-Her views are incredibly conservative, which is why the far right loves her. She is against abortion in cases of rape or incest, against birth control or condoms for married couples, and wants to teach creationsim in schools.

-She did not support McCain in the primary and thought it was "cool" that Obama was doing well in early polls in Alaska.

-There are rumors that she was part of the AIP, the Alaskan Independence Party, a political party in Alaska who wants to secede Alaska from the United States

Sarah Palin seems like a very nice woman with a compelling personal story, but Vice President?? I think not. This choice reflects more on McCain than it does on Palin. Will his decisions as President be a risky and impulsive just like the decision to name Sarah Palin as VP? With any minimal research, she would not have been the choice.

Maybe she will want to re-think that birth control thought?

The 17-year-old unwed daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is five-months pregnant, Palin and her husband, Todd Palin, said Monday in a written statement.

John McCain’s newly named running mate confirmed the story after rumors circulated on the Internet that Palin’s 4-month-old son was actually her daughter Bristol’s child.

McCain’s campaign told FOX News that the presumptive Republican presidential candidate knew about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy before he chose Palin as his running mate last Friday, and that Bristol is planning to marry the father of her child. The baby is due in late December.

“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us,” the Palins said in the statement. “Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.”

The Palins asked the media to respect their family’s privacy.

“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”

Checker is that the best you got, even Olbermann said the trooper story was not something you could use because the guy was a creep who was tasering his stepson and driving drunk.

The VP line was said in a joking manner but I'm sure Obama knows exactly what a President does, community organizing prepares you for that job. I mean are you seriously going to have a debate on experience, your own candidate, Obama, has stated that Rummy and Cheney had all of the experience in the world yet mismanaged the war.

There is a big difference between President and VP, your Presidential candidate has an utter lack of experience.

How do you know there was no serious vetting done? You are certain that McCain's team has not been vetting her for months?

She doesn't help with Hillary supporters or independent woman, really, this is based on what? Go out in the street and talk to some of them.

The funny thing is you know the Obama supporters are scared because of all their bat**** conspiracies and focus on her family, they have little to go on and they are worried that they lost the "change" argument.

And the real funny thing is that she actually took on corruption in her party while your revolutionary candidate slept while the corrupt Chicago machine kept on pilfering the average citizen.

I would think women who support Hillary Clinton and her pro-choice views would not support a staunch pro-life women as a substitute for her. Call me naive if you wish for thinking that. Palin fighting corruption in Alaska is a farce as well. Look who got her started on her road to becoming governor
:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/01/palin_was_a_director_of_embatt.html#more

And as for McCain choosing Palin, come on,even you can admit this choice was out of left field. And they have not been vetting her for months, check this out: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4641397.ece
And yes, I seriously believe McCain and his campaign have not seriously vetted Palin. Did you see them on stage together? He looks extremely uncomfortable. I think he wanted to pick Lieberman but was shot down by the far right of the party. So he went for a reach with a woman who appeals to the base and in his twisted mind will get Hillary voters to support him as well. I dont have a link but there was a report that said Pawlenty was all but guaranteed the job, but at the last minute he switched and chose Palin, probably after hearing Obama's speech.

And as for Obama, voters have had a chance to reject him for his lack of experience, and with every possible obstacle in his way he defeated a very strong candidate in Hillary Clinton. Sure, you are going to argue that the far left of the party nominated him and he isnt "mainstream" and liberals always nominate a terrible choice, and thats cool. I will have to just agree to disagree with you on this point.

And by the way, none of my comments is directed at you in hate. You seem like an intelligent person. I love a good debate. This just passes the time until the trainwreck that is "Francesa on the Fan" debuts tommorrow.

Palin singlehandedly got rid of the corrupt government in Alaska. And she is big on reforming. Thats something important shes done. Unlike this guy Rove was talking about.

So I say, to that:

>>HANDWAVE<<

The corrupt goverment is why she is the governer. They would have elected you or I to get rid of the goverment they had in place.

I am going to also put a checker on a checker and say that this is all in good debate, everyone here seems to be informed and smart.

Fran on the Fan will atleast for Tuesday be a "must"

He is a black man running for President of the United States.

How is that risky?

and hes not black. hes HALF.

How is that risky?

and hes not black. hes HALF.

I know you all want to say "all Obama says is hope for change etc..."

This made me think that maybe we should discuss his policy ideas.

1. Tax: Obama wants to cut taxes on people below 250K and raise it on people above. What do you all think? Also what is your income bracket?

2. War: Obama wants to pull out the troops. Leaving a residual force.

3. Terrorism: Wants to increase troops in Afghanistan and go after Bin-Laden .

4. Health Care: Wants everyone to have affordable insurance. If you have job offered insurance you keep it. If not you can get Govt insurance that is affordable.

5. Energy: Off oil in ten years. Multi-point plan including nuclear (if we can find a place for waste), possible help for GM to make an efficient car, Cap and trade.

I know you all want to say "all Obama says is hope for change etc..."

This made me think that maybe we should discuss his policy ideas.

1. Tax: Obama wants to cut taxes on people below 250K and raise it on people above. What do you all think? Also what is your income bracket?

2. War: Obama wants to pull out the troops. Leaving a residual force.

3. Terrorism: Wants to increase troops in Afghanistan and go after Bin-Laden .

4. Health Care: Wants everyone to have affordable insurance. If you have job offered insurance you keep it. If not you can get Govt insurance that is affordable.

5. Energy: Off oil in ten years. Multi-point plan including nuclear (if we can find a place for waste), possible help for GM to make an efficient car, Cap and trade.


2)WAR

John McCain believes it is strategically and morally essential for the United States to support the Government of Iraq to become capable of governing itself and safeguarding its people. He strongly disagrees with those who advocate withdrawing American troops before that has occurred.

It would be a grave mistake to leave before Al Qaeda in Iraq is defeated and before a competent, trained, and capable Iraqi security force is in place and operating effectively. We must help the Government of Iraq battle those who provoke sectarian tensions and promote a civil war that could destabilize the Middle East. Iraq must not become a failed state, a haven for terrorists, or a pawn of Iran. These likely consequences of America's failure in Iraq almost certainly would either require us to return or draw us into a wider and far costlier war.

The best way to secure long-term peace and security is to establish a stable, prosperous, and democratic state in Iraq that poses no threat to its neighbors and contributes to the defeat of terrorists. When Iraqi forces can safeguard their own country, American troops can return home.

THAT CANNOT BE ARGUED.

I know you all want to say "all Obama says is hope for change etc..."

This made me think that maybe we should discuss his policy ideas.

1. Tax: Obama wants to cut taxes on people below 250K and raise it on people above. What do you all think? Also what is your income bracket?

2. War: Obama wants to pull out the troops. Leaving a residual force.

3. Terrorism: Wants to increase troops in Afghanistan and go after Bin-Laden .

4. Health Care: Wants everyone to have affordable insurance. If you have job offered insurance you keep it. If not you can get Govt insurance that is affordable.

5. Energy: Off oil in ten years. Multi-point plan including nuclear (if we can find a place for waste), possible help for GM to make an efficient car, Cap and trade.


1)TAXES + ECONOMY


Cut Taxes On The Middle Class

Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families: Hard-working American families need lower taxes. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) -- a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families. John McCain will repeal this onerous tax, saving middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 -- a real tax cut for working families.
Pro-Growth Tax Policy


Keep Tax Rates Low: Entrepreneurs are at the heart of American innovation, growth and prosperity. Entrepreneurs create the ultimate job security -- a new, better opportunity if your current job goes away. Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission. John McCain will make the Bush income and investment tax cuts permanent, keeping income tax rates at their current level and fighting the Democrats' plans for a crippling tax increase in 2011. Left to their devices, Democrats will impose a massive $100 billion tax hike, almost $700 per taxpayer every year.


Eliminating Wasteful Spending


Stop Earmarks, Pork-Barrel Spending, And Waste: John McCain will veto every pork-laden spending bill and make their authors famous. As President, he will seek the line-item veto to reduce waste and eliminate earmarks that have led to corruption. Earmarks restrict America's ability to address genuine national priorities and interfere with fair, competitive markets.


Reduced spending means making choices

John McCain will provide the courageous leadership necessary to control spending, including:

>Eliminate broken government programs. The federal government itself admits that 1 in 5 programs do not perform.

>Reform our civil service system to promote accountability and good performance in our federal workforce.

>Eliminate earmarks, wasteful subsidies, and pork-barrel spending. Reform procurement programs and cut wasteful spending in defense and non-defense programs.

THATS CHANGE

I know you all want to say "all Obama says is hope for change etc..."

This made me think that maybe we should discuss his policy ideas.

1. Tax: Obama wants to cut taxes on people below 250K and raise it on people above. What do you all think? Also what is your income bracket?

2. War: Obama wants to pull out the troops. Leaving a residual force.

3. Terrorism: Wants to increase troops in Afghanistan and go after Bin-Laden .

4. Health Care: Wants everyone to have affordable insurance. If you have job offered insurance you keep it. If not you can get Govt insurance that is affordable.

5. Energy: Off oil in ten years. Multi-point plan including nuclear (if we can find a place for waste), possible help for GM to make an efficient car, Cap and trade.

3)TERRORISM (THE WAR)

John McCain:
"Senator Obama is obviously confused about what the United States Supreme Court decided and what he is calling for," McCain said in a statement issued by his campaign. "After enthusiastically embracing the Supreme Court decision granting habeas in US civilian courts to dangerous terrorist detainees, he is now running away from the consequences of that decision and what it would mean if Osama bin Laden were captured. Senator Obama refuses to clarify whether he believes habeas should be granted to Osama bin Laden, and instead cites the precedent of the Nuremburg war trials. Unfortunately, it is clear Senator Obama does not understand what happened at the Nuremburg trials and what procedures were followed. There was no habeas at Nuremburg and there should be no habeas for Osama bin Laden. Senator Obama cannot have it both ways. In one breath he endorses habeas for terrorists like 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and in the next he denies its logical conclusion of habeas for Osama bin Laden. By citing a historical precedent that does not include habeas, he sends a signal of confusion and indecision to our allies and adversaries and the American people.

"Let me be clear, under my administration Osama bin Laden will either be killed on the battlefield or executed," McCain continues. "Senator Obama's failure to comprehend the implication of the Supreme Court decision he embraced and the historical precedent of Nuremberg raise serious questions about judgment and experience and whether Senator Obama is ready to assume the awesome responsibilities of commander in chief."

I know you all want to say "all Obama says is hope for change etc..."

This made me think that maybe we should discuss his policy ideas.

1. Tax: Obama wants to cut taxes on people below 250K and raise it on people above. What do you all think? Also what is your income bracket?

2. War: Obama wants to pull out the troops. Leaving a residual force.

3. Terrorism: Wants to increase troops in Afghanistan and go after Bin-Laden .

4. Health Care: Wants everyone to have affordable insurance. If you have job offered insurance you keep it. If not you can get Govt insurance that is affordable.

5. Energy: Off oil in ten years. Multi-point plan including nuclear (if we can find a place for waste), possible help for GM to make an efficient car, Cap and trade.

4)HEALTH CARE

Americans Are Worried About Health Care Costs. The problems with health care are well known: it is too expensive and 47 million people living in the United States lack health insurance.

John McCain's Vision for Health Care Reform

John McCain Believes The Key To Health Care Reform Is To Restore Control To The Patients Themselves. We want a system of health care in which everyone can afford and acquire the treatment and preventative care they need. Health care should be available to all and not limited by where you work or how much you make. Families should be in charge of their health care dollars and have more control over care.

Making Health Insurance Innovative, Portable and Affordable

John McCain Will Reform Health Care Making It Easier For Individuals And Families To Obtain Insurance. An important part of his plan is to use competition to improve the quality of health insurance with greater variety to match people's needs, lower prices, and portability. Families should be able to purchase health insurance nationwide, across state lines.

John McCain Will Reform The Tax Code To Offer More Choices Beyond Employer-Based Health Insurance Coverage. While still having the option of employer-based coverage, every family will receive a direct refundable tax credit - effectively cash - of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families to offset the cost of insurance. Families will be able to choose the insurance provider that suits them best and the money would be sent directly to the insurance provider. Those obtaining innovative insurance that costs less than the credit can deposit the remainder in expanded Health Savings Accounts.

John McCain Proposes Making Insurance More Portable.

Americans need insurance that follows them from job to job. They want insurance that is still there if they retire early and does not change if they take a few years off to raise the kids.

John McCain Will Encourage And Expand The Benefits Of Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) For Families. When families are informed about medical choices, they are more capable of making their own decisions and often decide against unnecessary options. Health Savings Accounts take an important step in the direction of putting families in charge of what they pay for.

A Specific Plan of Action: Ensuring Care for Higher Risk Patients

John McCain's Plan Cares For The Traditionally Uninsurable.

John McCain understands that those without prior group coverage and those with pre-existing conditions have the most difficulty on the individual market, and we need to make sure they get the high-quality coverage they need.

John McCain Will Work With States To Establish A Guaranteed Access Plan.

As President, John McCain will work with governors to develop a best practice model that states can follow - a Guaranteed Access Plan or GAP - that would reflect the best experience of the states to ensure these patients have access to health coverage. One approach would establish a nonprofit corporation that would contract with insurers to cover patients who have been denied insurance and could join with other state plans to enlarge pools and lower overhead costs. There would be reasonable limits on premiums, and assistance would be available for Americans below a certain income level.

John McCain Will Promote Proper Incentives.

John McCain will work with Congress, the governors, and industry to make sure this approach is funded adequately and has the right incentives to reduce costs such as disease management, individual case management, and health and wellness programs.

A Specific Plan of Action: Lowering Health Care Costs

John McCain Proposes A Number Of Initiatives That Can Lower Health Care Costs. If we act today, we can lower health care costs for families through common-sense initiatives. Within a decade, health spending will comprise twenty percent of our economy. This is taking an increasing toll on America's families and small businesses. Even Senators Clinton and Obama recognize the pressure skyrocketing health costs place on small business when they exempt small businesses from their employer mandate plans.

CHEAPER DRUGS: Lowering Drug Prices. John McCain will look to bring greater competition to our drug markets through safe re-importation of drugs and faster introduction of generic drugs.

CHRONIC DISEASE: Providing Quality, Cheaper Care For Chronic Disease. Chronic conditions account for three-quarters of the nation's annual health care bill. By emphasizing prevention, early intervention, healthy habits, new treatment models, new public health infrastructure and the use of information technology, we can reduce health care costs. We should dedicate more federal research to caring and curing chronic disease.

COORDINATED CARE: Promoting Coordinated Care. Coordinated care - with providers collaborating to produce the best health care - offers better outcomes at lower cost. We should pay a single bill for high-quality disease care which will make every single provider accountable and responsive to the patients' needs.

GREATER ACCESS AND CONVENIENCE: Expanding Access To Health Care. Families place a high value on quickly getting simple care. Government should promote greater access through walk-in clinics in retail outlets.

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY: Greater Use Of Information Technology To Reduce Costs. We should promote the rapid deployment of 21st century information systems and technology that allows doctors to practice across state lines.

MEDICAID AND MEDICARE: Reforming The Payment System To Cut Costs. We must reform the payment systems in Medicaid and Medicare to compensate providers for diagnosis, prevention and care coordination. Medicaid and Medicare should not pay for preventable medical errors or mismanagement.

SMOKING: Promoting The Availability Of Smoking Cessation Programs. Most smokers would love to quit but find it hard to do so. Working with business and insurance companies to promote availability, we can improve lives and reduce chronic disease through smoking cessation programs.

STATE FLEXIBILITY: Encouraging States To Lower Costs. States should have the flexibility to experiment with alternative forms of access, coordinated payments per episode covered under Medicaid, use of private insurance in Medicaid, alternative insurance policies and different licensing schemes for providers.

TORT REFORM: Passing Medical Liability Reform. We must pass medical liability reform that eliminates lawsuits directed at doctors who follow clinical guidelines and adhere to safety protocols. Every patient should have access to legal remedies in cases of bad medical practice but that should not be an invitation to endless, frivolous lawsuits.

TRANSPARENCY: Bringing Transparency To Health Care Costs. We must make public more information on treatment options and doctor records, and require transparency regarding medical outcomes, quality of care, costs and prices. We must also facilitate the development of national standards for measuring and recording treatments and outcomes.

5)ENERGY

Expanding Domestic Oil And Natural Gas Exploration And Production

John McCain Will Commit Our Country To Expanding Domestic Oil Exploration.

The current federal moratorium on drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf stands in the way of energy exploration and production. John McCain believes it is time for the federal government to lift these restrictions and to put our own reserves to use. There is no easier or more direct way to prove to the world that we will no longer be subject to the whims of others than to expand our production capabilities. We have trillions of dollars worth of oil and gas reserves in the U.S. at a time we are exporting hundreds of billions of dollars a year overseas to buy energy. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind. We should keep more of our dollars here in the U.S., lessen our foreign dependency, increase our domestic supplies, and reduce our trade deficit - 41% of which is due to oil imports. John McCain proposes to cooperate with the states and the Department of Defense in the decisions to develop these resources.

John McCain Believes In Promoting And Expanding The Use Of Our Domestic Supplies Of Natural Gas. When people are hurting, and struggling to afford gasoline, food, and other necessities, common sense requires that we draw upon America's own vast reserves of oil and natural gas. Within the United States we have tremendous reserves of natural gas. The Outer Continental Shelf alone contains 77 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas. It is time that we capitalize on these significant resources and build the infrastructure needed to transport this important component of electricity generation and transportation fuel around the country.

Many of the things Obama has talked about in regard to foreign policy on the campaign have come to fruition.

Obama called for a timetable for US troops to come home from Iraq in which McCain later said "he would rather lose a war to win an election." The problem for McCain is the Iraqi Prime Minister has said he agrees with Obama's idea of a timetable and he feels US troops should leave. Who better than the Prime Minister of Iraq to say when we should leave their country?? Bush has even been in talks with Iraq for a timetable for withdrawl. Did McCain say Bush was not putting "country first?" Of course not.

When Obama said he would sit down and talk to America's enemies, he was killed by the conservatuve talk shows who called him a "Nazi appeaser." Funny, they did not say the same thing about George Bush when he sent aides to talk to N. Korea about their nuclear program.

Obama also was one of the first ones to say where the real War on Terrorism should be fought, in Afghanistan instead of Iraq. McCain later repeated this as if he brought it up first, adding he would send 3 brigades to Afghanistan rather than Obama's 2 brigades.

McCain has talked about bombing Iran and even hinted about confrontations with Russia. This is a road he does not want to go down especially with our overstreched military and already weak reputation around the world. If anyone thinks McCain being President means less war, they are fooling themselves.

Oh and by the way, The Washington Post is now reporting the first major interview with Sarah Palin was last Wednesday, one day before McCain asked her to be his running mate.

Yes, an interview, but vetting also means research, the campaign could have been researching her for months.

Obama has been wrong on Iraq, he stated he was against the surge, then declared the surge was failing, of course that was scrubbed from his website. He originally called for the troops to be withdrawn immediately then changed once the surge was obviously working. The whole timetable thing is a gimmick, it would take 16 months to pull all of the troops out.

By the way, during the Iraq war, Obama did not try any measures to put pressure on Bush to end the war.

The same goes for sending more troops to Afghanistan. That is not a new idea, Kerry was running on that in 2004, yet did Obama try anything in the Senate to put pressure on Bush to put some more resources into Afghanistan.

This is the major problem with Obama, he talks a good game but the man has not done anything of substance in the Senate.

Is this the same Iraqi prime minister that the left was calling a joke, a Bush stooge, now suddenly they are taking talking points from him, hey the bottom line is that if we followed Obama and Biden, we would have left Iraq defeated.

I thought the surge was crazy at the time, most of the media, most of the Democrats were all against it. We were all obviously wrong.

The key thing is Bush sent aides, Obama said he would meet as President without preconditions.

If the Israeli's or the Americans want to send some planes to bomb Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure that hardly means we will be at war with them.

Oh and this idea that Iran would limit the oil supply and send the price of gas skyrocketing is absurd. The lifeblood of Iran's economy is oil, if they cut supplies, the country starves, and then Iran is facing a possible revolution, don't forget that 70 percent of the population is under 30 and many are pro Western.

Either way this election is going to be interesting. The world will not end if Obama is elected, I just think that many of his policies are wrong for America, and he has not been clear enough on the specific ways he is going to initiate his policy changes.

Good luck.


Man, your just preachin to the one man choir over here! Good to know Im not the only conservative in the world!

Yes, an interview, but vetting also means research, the campaign could have been researching her for months.

Obama has been wrong on Iraq, he stated he was against the surge, then declared the surge was failing, of course that was scrubbed from his website. He originally called for the troops to be withdrawn immediately then changed once the surge was obviously working. The whole timetable thing is a gimmick, it would take 16 months to pull all of the troops out.

By the way, during the Iraq war, Obama did not try any measures to put pressure on Bush to end the war.

The same goes for sending more troops to Afghanistan. That is not a new idea, Kerry was running on that in 2004, yet did Obama try anything in the Senate to put pressure on Bush to put some more resources into Afghanistan.

This is the major problem with Obama, he talks a good game but the man has not done anything of substance in the Senate.

Is this the same Iraqi prime minister that the left was calling a joke, a Bush stooge, now suddenly they are taking talking points from him, hey the bottom line is that if we followed Obama and Biden, we would have left Iraq defeated.

I thought the surge was crazy at the time, most of the media, most of the Democrats were all against it. We were all obviously wrong.

The key thing is Bush sent aides, Obama said he would meet as President without preconditions.

If the Israeli's or the Americans want to send some planes to bomb Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure that hardly means we will be at war with them.

Oh and this idea that Iran would limit the oil supply and send the price of gas skyrocketing is absurd. The lifeblood of Iran's economy is oil, if they cut supplies, the country starves, and then Iran is facing a possible revolution, don't forget that 70 percent of the population is under 30 and many are pro Western.

Either way this election is going to be interesting. The world will not end if Obama is elected, I just think that many of his policies are wrong for America, and he has not been clear enough on the specific ways he is going to initiate his policy changes.

Good luck.

I can see your point of view, but I still think Obama has shown clear judgement and intelligence when it comes to foreign affairs.

I hate the whole idea of Iraq about "winning and losing." That we can not leave Iraq until we have "won." I certainly do not want to leave Iraq in a bad situation, but there has to come a point where we just have to ask ourselves how many more lives and how much more money we want to spend there. I have not heard any prominent Republican or person for that matter in support of this war who has clearly defined victory in Iraq, which is the main reason we have been stuck there now for over 5 years. We probably should have never been there to begin with. Yeah, the surge has reduced violence, but also because of the Anbar awakening and the fact that we paid insurgents to stop fighting.

If the surge had worked completely and we had "won" the war, all troops would be home right now and we would be celebrating victory. That has not happened. "The surge worked" meme and the idea that Obama wanted "to leave in defeat" is just right wing spin to scare voters that seems to be resonating somewhat,

Current active duty troops have given 6x more money to Obama than McCain. I think this shows they have a trust in him being commander-in-chief.
And I agree with what you said, whoever wins, life will go on and we will just have to deal with it.

I can see your point of view, but I still think Obama has shown clear judgement and intelligence when it comes to foreign affairs.

I hate the whole idea of Iraq about "winning and losing." That we can not leave Iraq until we have "won." I certainly do not want to leave Iraq in a bad situation, but there has to come a point where we just have to ask ourselves how many more lives and how much more money we want to spend there. I have not heard any prominent Republican or person for that matter in support of this war who has clearly defined victory in Iraq, which is the main reason we have been stuck there now for over 5 years. We probably should have never been there to begin with. Yeah, the surge has reduced violence, but also because of the Anbar awakening and the fact that we paid insurgents to stop fighting.

If the surge had worked completely and we had "won" the war, all troops would be home right now and we would be celebrating victory. That has not happened. "The surge worked" meme and the idea that Obama wanted "to leave in defeat" is just right wing spin to scare voters that seems to be resonating somewhat,

Current active duty troops have given 6x more money to Obama than McCain. I think this shows they have a trust in him being commander-in-chief.
And I agree with what you said, whoever wins, life will go on and we will just have to deal with it.


I dont know how accurate your troop donating numbers are, but you are way wrong on one thing: This idea that no republican has defined victory in Iraq is just pure ludicrous. John McCain, TIME and TIME again has said victory in Iraq, is a stable Iraqi government, safe from terrorists, and an Iraq that poses no threat or danger to its neighbors near and far.

I dont know how accurate your troop donating numbers are, but you are way wrong on one thing: This idea that no republican has defined victory in Iraq is just pure ludicrous. John McCain, TIME and TIME again has said victory in Iraq, is a stable Iraqi government, safe from terrorists, and an Iraq that poses no threat or danger to its neighbors near and far.

And I would argue that 2000 years of history in that region makes that goal hard to reach.

As for troops giving more money to Obama, here ya go:

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html

And I would argue that 2000 years of history in that region makes that goal hard to reach.

As for troops giving more money to Obama, here ya go:

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html

and i dont disagree with those numbers. but mccain did not get outgiven by a moon shot!? I mean gee whiz!

That money donation IS NOT the way to tell whether Obama has many more supporters than mccain in the military service. All it means is that more money was given! when the numbers are that close, you cannot be here telling me Obama has more supporters in the military!

That goal you speak of wont be hard to reach under John McCain!.

We cannot leave Iraq! After getting Saddam Hussein, and his sons, its time for Al Qaeda and the terrorists, to make this world a safer place! And A SMART SOLDIER (IM NOT QUESTIONING THEIR BRAVERY) WOULD KNOW THAT!

And until our job in Iraq is done, we WILL not leave. Numbers you give me will not prove otherwise, it is UNARGUABLE, and its as SIMPLE AS THAT. A stable Iraq means a great deal in our world, and that stability will be reached under JOHN MCCAIN.

and i dont disagree with those numbers. but mccain did not get outgiven by a moon shot!? I mean gee whiz!

That money donation IS NOT the way to tell whether Obama has many more supporters than mccain in the military service. All it means is that more money was given! when the numbers are that close, you cannot be here telling me Obama has more supporters in the military!

That goal you speak of wont be hard to reach under John McCain!.

We cannot leave Iraq! After getting Saddam Hussein, and his sons, its time for Al Qaeda and the terrorists, to make this world a safer place! And A SMART SOLDIER (IM NOT QUESTIONING THEIR BRAVERY) WOULD KNOW THAT!

And until our job in Iraq is done, we WILL not leave. Numbers you give me will not prove otherwise, it is UNARGUABLE, and its as SIMPLE AS THAT. A stable Iraq means a great deal in our world, and that stability will be reached under JOHN MCCAIN.

I am not saying Obama has more supporters in the military. I am saying the donations he received says our soldiers would trust him as commander-in-chief and support his policies.

I tell you what, Obama should drop out of the race. If you are watching this RNC, it is CLEAR who should be President. And it is clear Palin has a heck of a lot more experience and capability than Obama.

I tell you what, Obama should drop out of the race. If you are watching this RNC, it is CLEAR who should be President. And it is clear Palin has a heck of a lot more experience and capability than Obama.

Palin's Lies

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1. The bridge
2. The Jet
3. The chef
4. The per diem
5. The earmarks
6. The investigation
7. The brother-in-law

Zep did you have to copy Mccain's entire web page. G Whiz@

Palin's Lies

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1. The bridge
2. The Jet
3. The chef
4. The per diem
5. The earmarks
6. The investigation
7. The brother-in-law

this is all nitpicking by the liberal media of non-stories.

1)there was different funding before she was gov and after of the bridge, so she is not lying. When the different funding came then she was against it. Biggest lie still be reporting by the media.

2) the jet may not have sold on ebay, but it was sold. she said she put it on ebay.

http://valleywag.com/5045838/meg-whitmans-ebay-couldnt-actually-sell-sarah-palins-jet]

admin covered everything else quite well

Zepman it is way too early to state anything definitive but this is looking good for McCain.

Maybe Obama did not direct the pig comment to Palin but why go there, it is like his campaign is imploding in front of our eyes.

The pig comment is overblown. Don't count your chickens before they hatch in regards to the campaign imploding. Still 55 days to go.

1. Not a lie, she never said that she wasn't considering it during the gubernatorial campaign. Bottom line, Palin had one vote, Obama/Biden had two, she vetoed it, Obama/Biden voted for it twice, even refusing to divert the Bridge money for Katrina victims.

2. I don't know about this one but compare her travel expenses with the previous Governors.

3. Chef- you guys are trying too hard, don't know the story on this one.

4. She never discussed a per diem, so how is that a lie, talk to Biden, he plays up taking the train but never mentions that tax payers funded his train trips.

5. Earmarks: Don't recall her saying she never accepted an earmark. Here is the difference, she has gone against her own party, she has tried to stop corruption, she has tried reform, Obama has never done anything of the sort. No politician is perfect, but Obama is fiction, he never has done anything politically risky.

I'm assuming 6 and 7 are the same things, well you really have nothing there, a brother in law who tasered his step son, used alcohol on the job, and has wished Palin well and asks for the public to drop this, if this is the best you got you guys are really reaching.

What are you talking about? There were videos of her in a gubenatorial debate in which she she shows a clear support for the bridge to nowhere. All of that other stuff is small, but it adds up. She is an ideologue who has energized the GOP base, but I am not convinced her mean-spirited speech last week or her extreme positions on social issues will have any influence on the undecided voter.

And as for all this other garbage going on the last few days, McCain has said numerous times "a pig with lipstick is still a pig" over the past year. For him to be calling Obama out on this and implying that he is sexist is the height of hypocrasy considering his voting record on women's issues, jokes he has told about rape, and calling his own wife a c*nt.

And Obama imploding??? lol....based on what?? I agree that the race is close right now and that the GOP has been energized due to Palin, but there are still 4 debates to go and whenever it gets back to issues, Obama has the edge.

Again, what did she lie about, she said that she did not approve the bridge when it came time for her to sign. Nobody from the McCain campaign ever said she originally did not support it, the most important thing is that she was against it. I mean really, are you going to go back and go over the many times Obama has flip flopped on issues during this campaign.

Obama has been lost this past week, he is attacking the VP, a Presidential candidate never should do that, he is making gaffes left and right, it doesn't matter, the pig comment was stupid, he just lost another day because of that remark, has nothing to do with intent, just a dumb move.

Check out your party, they are all worried.

In those videos she says I wouldn't get in the way of progress, there was no mention of how much the bridge would cost.

But once again, just another example of Obama attacking inexperience, he is the most inexperienced man to run for President in 100 years, attacking on a flip flop, when he has about ten of them the past few months, attacking on the bridge, when he voted for it, the list goes on and on, the Obama campaign is lost.

I dont care if she never mentioned how much the bridge would cost, she supported it at first. When it came to decide, she said no, but still kept the money!!! How does flip-flopping her position and still keeping the money make her some sort of maverick reformer??

Obama has to say something about her on the campaign when she is slaughtering him every day. And McCain does not want to get into a sexism debate or a flip-flopping debate, because he loses that one as well. He has caved in to the far right on almost every major issue. It is comical. His flip-flops are never brought up in the media.

Obama has been pretty consistent in his record. Conservatives pegged him as this ultra liberal, when in fact this is not the case. So when they find out his real positions, they think its a flip-flop but thats not true. Obama is not a ultra liberal. He holds some liberal positions, but he is more a pragmatist. Watch his 2004 speech again. Everything in there is very similar to what he has been talking about this year. I would agree the FISA stance was a flip-flop and he took serious hits for that, but if John McCain wants to debate flip-flops, I think Obama would welcome that.

And "check out your party?" I dont know what that means. All the people I know that support Obama are doing everything they can to help him get elected.

Have you been reading the articles about worried Democratic leaders, read Howard Fineman's article today and that guy is liberal.

That 2004 speech was a great speech, I wish Senator Obama had followed that speech, he never lived up to it.

I can think of major issues McCain has gone against his party on without even thinking:

Global warming, torture and the base in Cuba, stem cell research, campaign finance reform, immigration reform, I mean seriously there is a reason right wing radio talk show hosts have been bashing McCain during the primaries.

Obama has never crossed the aisle in any significant way, I think he has voted with his party 98 percent of the time.

McCain is the only guy running who has never accepted an earmark. Sarah Palin has other instances where she stood for reform, Obama has zero.

If you think he is not an ultra liberal than you need to do the research. Hillary Clinton had a record of working with Republicans and taking centrist positions, she would have been the best nominee, but the party sold out Reagan or moderate Democrats and that is why they will lose.

You are correct that McCain 2008 is not the same maverick he was in 2000. There is no doubt that after 2004 he knew he had to get the support of Bush and the religious right to have a chance at becoming the nominee. Unfortunately that is the political game that has to be played and I would cut Obama the same slack for moving to the center during the general election if he had some history of taking centrist positions, going against his party, and taking reform minded positions, sadly there is no record there.

If I truly believed Obama was some change agent and new politician I would vote for him. The truth is that he is just another Jimmy Carter, difference being the media and his spinmeisters have done a great job of inventing the black Mr. Smith goes to Washington. The public bought it for a while but the bloom is off the rose.

If the election was held today he would lose. So think, what is going to change from now to Election Day. Obama is not a skilled debater, he stammers and talks too much, McCain is a declarative speaker, he knows how to get right to the point, I can't see Obama doing anything to significantly alter the landscape.

Obviously anything can happen but the Obama campaign is in trouble and their actions are showing this.

Actually, Obama's favorable ratings are at an all time high for him, so i dont think that the "bloom is off the rose" as you said. I think people are buying in to this new reformer/maverick campaign McCain and Palin are running on. I dont buy it one bit, but I was never going to vote for them anyway.

What are you talking about? There were videos of her in a gubenatorial debate in which she she shows a clear support for the bridge to nowhere. All of that other stuff is small, but it adds up. She is an ideologue who has energized the GOP base, but I am not convinced her mean-spirited speech last week or her extreme positions on social issues will have any influence on the undecided voter.

And as for all this other garbage going on the last few days, McCain has said numerous times "a pig with lipstick is still a pig" over the past year. For him to be calling Obama out on this and implying that he is sexist is the height of hypocrasy considering his voting record on women's issues, jokes he has told about rape, and calling his own wife a c*nt.

And Obama imploding??? lol....based on what?? I agree that the race is close right now and that the GOP has been energized due to Palin, but there are still 4 debates to go and whenever it gets back to issues, Obama has the edge.

DIFFERENT FUNDING

So McCain was the experienced candidate.

Then Palin came along and it turned out that she was more experienced than Obama and McCain because she had "executive experience".

Now McCain is the change candidate. This was tough because he had 26 years in the senate... A Rep senate for 10 of the last 12 years and a Rep. president for the last 8 years and nothing changed.

Obama was inexperienced. Then Palin came along and made him look experienced. Until the spin zone made her more experienced because she had executive experience.

Joe Biden was supposed to bring more experience. Then he bacame a Washington insider. Which I guess negates experience.

McCain is not a Washinton insider because he chose a Washington outsider as his running mate. Oh and stop me if you heard this before: MAVERICK

Which brings us to why you should vote for McCain. I don't know if you heard this or not... but... John McCain was a prisoner in a hanoi prison...

So McCain was the experienced candidate.

Then Palin came along and it turned out that she was more experienced than Obama and McCain because she had "executive experience".

Now McCain is the change candidate. This was tough because he had 26 years in the senate... A Rep senate for 10 of the last 12 years and a Rep. president for the last 8 years and nothing changed.

Obama was inexperienced. Then Palin came along and made him look experienced. Until the spin zone made her more experienced because she had executive experience.

Joe Biden was supposed to bring more experience. Then he bacame a Washington insider. Which I guess negates experience.

McCain is not a Washinton insider because he chose a Washington outsider as his running mate. Oh and stop me if you heard this before: MAVERICK

Which brings us to why you should vote for McCain. I don't know if you heard this or not... but... John McCain was a prisoner in a hanoi prison...

lol, good job outta you. I think you summed things up nicely.

lol, good job outta you. I think you summed things up nicely.

Thanks, hopefully now Obama and MCcain can get to the issues at hand and have a serious debate. Biden and Palin can stay home and do what Vice Presidents do.... nothing.

As much as I don't like Palin this race is not about her.

Thanks, hopefully now Obama and MCcain can get to the issues at hand and have a serious debate. Biden and Palin can stay home and do what Vice Presidents do.... nothing.

As much as I don't like Palin this race is not about her.

Well geuss whose making the race about Her?

LIBERAL MEDIA

Well geuss whose making the race about Her?

LIBERAL MEDIA

I'm sure "Fixed" news has not done a story about her in days.

Well geuss whose making the race about Her?

LIBERAL MEDIA

The "liberal media" is the biggest myth ever. If you are talking about Olbermann or Rachel Maddow, then I agree. The supposed liberal media never even mentioned McCain's gaffes when he was making one a day early in the summer. Every news event that happened was "bad for Obama," no matter what it was or what Obama did. Whenever someone legimately criticized McCain, he went crazy, calling for immediate apologies like a whiny baby. The media was totally in his pocket. Now the media is starting to do their jobs, calling McCain and Palin out on their outright lies.

I would think the American people want to know about a unkown Governor from Alaska who is a heartbeat away from the presidency. I would think they would want to know about her past history in government, her positions on the issues, and what her plan is for the future. If by doing these things makes the media "liberal," then by all means I agree.

I used to think it was a myth, until I saw what happened beginning with the Democratic primary.

Sorry buddy but you are way off, Obama is the gaffe machine, the media never even peeped about his many gaffes, yet when McCain confused sunni with shia, it became a national story.

I will say though that the "pig" comments got way overblown. The media has been under enormous pressure and it is expected that they will hit back against Obama a little, most in the media want to at least appear professional and they realize Obama has gotten a free ride.

Of course the entire media is not as far left as MSNBC but my whole political world view has changed with this election. I have never seen such bias and support for one candidate.

You are right that the facts need to come out about Sarah Palin, facts mind you, not rumors and lies.

However if the mainstream media had been this rabid about vetting Obama in early 2007, Hillary Clinton would be the nominee.

Once again, man , you hit the nail on the head 100 %

but it is really incredible how much cnn gets away with. Their reporters and contributers are so biased its utterly ridiculous. Wolf Blitzer is just a piece of s-hit Anderson Cooper is so biased I just have to change the channel. Liberal Media is alive and well, and CNN clearly has a pro-obama liberal agenda. Campbell Brown is biased. Anybody whos not extreme left can tell for sure, because i have democrat friends even tell me they believe cnn can be biased at times.

BUT I do enjoy watching Lou Dobbs on CNN the one non-biased guy. Hes hard hitting, and balanced, and he knows fair reporting. And he doesnt take the typical s-hit those pro-illegal immigrant groups give him whenever they attack him on their websites. or when they say hes racist

As somebody who has been a Democrat for life, the Obama wing of the party has really been an embarassment. The media is an embarassment and the party has become an embarassment. The hypocrisy towards Gov. Palin is off the charts, and frankly reveals the worst characteristics of so many people. People can actually argue with a straight face about Palin's inexperience but yet SOMEHOW extol Obama's experience. At least Palin has managed a state budget, and though inexperienced is still #2 on the ticket. Obama is #1! Enough is enough, and I'm done with the Democratic Party. Maybe once this Obama hysteria evaporates I may return, but I want no part of this hate-filled, Daily-kos driven drivel.

1. Not a lie, she never said that she wasn't considering it during the gubernatorial campaign. Bottom line, Palin had one vote, Obama/Biden had two, she vetoed it, Obama/Biden voted for it twice, even refusing to divert the Bridge money for Katrina victims.

2. I don't know about this one but compare her travel expenses with the previous Governors.

3. Chef- you guys are trying too hard, don't know the story on this one.

4. She never discussed a per diem, so how is that a lie, talk to Biden, he plays up taking the train but never mentions that tax payers funded his train trips.

5. Earmarks: Don't recall her saying she never accepted an earmark. Here is the difference, she has gone against her own party, she has tried to stop corruption, she has tried reform, Obama has never done anything of the sort. No politician is perfect, but Obama is fiction, he never has done anything politically risky.

I'm assuming 6 and 7 are the same things, well you really have nothing there, a brother in law who tasered his step son, used alcohol on the job, and has wished Palin well and asks for the public to drop this, if this is the best you got you guys are really reaching.

Today, McCain asked during his speech:
"Do we really know the who the real Barack Obama is?" or something to that effect and someone in the crowd responded by yelling "terrorist."

Later, in a Sarah Palin speech, someone in the crowd yelled "kill him!" I assume they were not talking about Palin.

This is getting real ugly, and nothing good of it can come for McCain. He could have picked a safe running mate like Romney or Pawlenty and campaigned as the steady hand, and it would have likely been an extremely close race.

But McCain is a gambler, so we get Sarah Palin and all these other stunts he has pulled. The effects of these gambles has put McCain in a huge hole, so now he has to attack, and I dont think the American people want to hear any of it.

Obama will finish with more than 350 electoral votes if McCain continues to be negative this entire month.

I've seen this movie before and I caution you, many of the national and state polls have undecideds between 6 and 10 percent, majority of those are going to break for McCain.

There are two debates left and 27 days of negative attacks, many of the voters have just tuned in now, many of those have no idea about Obama's associations, I've gotten a tip that either tomorrow or Wednesday there will be a couple of polls showing a mini McCain bounce, doesn't matter, Obama is about to get roughed up and going negative always works, especially when the negative attacks are true as they are here.

In 2000 and 2004 at this time many of the polls showed the Dems in the lead and what happened.

The latest CBS poll among likely voters, remember at this stage the likely voter model is more accurate than registered voters, that has Obama only up 3, the NBC poll has Obama up 6 with a margin of error of 4.

Of course Obama was going to get a bounce from the financial crisis, but again Obama should be up 10 to 15 points, either way this is going to be a crazy ride, most intriguing election I have ever seen, once Americans have all the facts I can't see a majority of them entrusting the Presidency with this media creation named Barack Hussein Obama.

Yes, you are right. Negative campaigning has worked in the past, but I dont these attacks will resonate this year other besides John McCain's hardcore supporters. And the negative attacks true? So Obama meets a man who commited terrorist acts while Obama was eight years old, and meets him 35 years later once on a charity board for education reform after the man rehabilitated himself and became a productive member of society, and that is grounds to call Obama a terrorist. Now who's stretching? I think the Keating 5 is much more relevant to the problems Americans are facing right now.

Also, which outlet did you receive this polling tip from?? I am curious...

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=

Might want to check the above link and the links contained in the story, Obama's association with Ayers is not just based on one meeting, of course it doesn't make Obama a terrorist, just scares me that Obama would associate with him and it makes you wonder how far left Obama's world view is.

How did Ayers rehab himself, he never went to jail, case was thrown out because of illegal wiretaps, he never repented, just because he gets a Masters degree and becomes a professor, that is not penance for his crimes.

The above post is a ramble but you get the idea.

McCain was the only Senator that was cleared of any wrongdoing, it is not just Ayers, it is Rezko and others, Obama is from Chicago, enough said, one of the most corrupt political machines in the country.

Citing blogs from nationalreview as a source??? Come on, that would be like me sending you to a dailykos link.

You are right, becoming a professor and getting a Masters degree is not pennance for his crimes, but I think it counts for something, no? If Obama had any association with 1960s Ayers, yes, I have a problem. But a vague association with 2000s Ayers, who has rehabilitated himself and is the complete opposite of the radical he was in the 1960s is a hard thing to sell, especially in a time when people care about their pocketbooks more than ever.

And McCain said in his book that his involvement with the Keating 5 was the biggest disappointment of his entire career and on numerous interview before he was running for President said it was the biggest mistake he made in his life. Acquitted of charges, fine, but no role in the scandal, absolutley not.

The fact that you think the National Review is on par with the Daily Kos says a lot, those are real journalists that have a conservative world view, Daily Kos is a website where anybody can post, full of hatred, smears, threats, and intimidation, don't you see a pattern with Obama, all of these people, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, all of them Obama was clueless on their bad behavior, come on.

seriously. I will map out the connections:

OBAMA
- -
Obama's Church for 20 years:
Trinity United Church of Christ

Rev. Jeremiah Wright-> Some of the things hes said: US of KKKA, god damn america, the u.s. somehow released aids against the black community, etc

Father Pfleger-> A racist against his own race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvYICKJ3TI

-a man who has called Louis Farrakhan one of gods greatest prophets
(people make fun of Sarah Palin's church, but this church is really the church of clowns!)

AND Obama's church gave out their "social achievement" award in 2007 to Louis Farrakhan, a man who says the white man is not fully developed yet, who says judiasim is a gutter religion, a man who says that Hitler was a great man. the list goes on and on.

Obama is also related to Tony Rezko and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (meeting through a board they sat on together) and people from the Obama campaign have said that they have a friendly relationship.

What a collection of characters..

seriously. I will map out the connections:

OBAMA
- -
Obama's Church for 20 years:
Trinity United Church of Christ

Rev. Jeremiah Wright-> Some of the things hes said: US of KKKA, god damn america, the u.s. somehow released aids against the black community, etc

Father Pfleger-> A racist against his own race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvYICKJ3TI

-a man who has called Louis Farrakhan one of gods greatest prophets
(people make fun of Sarah Palin's church, but this church is really the church of clowns!)

AND Obama's church gave out their "social achievement" award in 2007 to Louis Farrakhan, a man who says the white man is not fully developed yet, who says judiasim is a gutter religion, a man who says that Hitler was a great man. the list goes on and on.

Obama is also related to Tony Rezko and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (meeting through a board they sat on together) and people from the Obama campaign have said that they have a friendly relationship.

What a collection of characters..

Palin had dealings with Joe Vogler (founder of the Alaskan Independence Party) and Todd Palin knew Vogler and was a member until 2002. This is the group that wanted to secede from the United States.

Vogler was quoted saying, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

and also, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Sounds pretty radical to me.
You know he had guns.

Then their was Rev. Muthee. The guy that layed hands on Mrs. Palin, prayed to make her governor, and to cast the witches out. Well Muthee lead a lynching mob of 200 with guns in his country to oust one particular woman he claimed was a witch or else. They shot a snake claiming it was an evil spirit and the woman left town never to be heard from again.

Sounds frick'in nuts to me.

I'll let McCain explain. He thinks these attacks aren't valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW-RO1_WN0

Have any of you guys noticed that this election you don't see signs in people's yards, you don't see bumper stickers, etc... This election and the issues about Obama and McCain people don't even want to talk about it while taking out the trash or washing the car in the driveway.

It is like walking on egg shells all over the country, it is the biggest deal and you can't talk about it.

I don't know any of you guys or your situations but have you seen any of this?

The fact that you think the National Review is on par with the Daily Kos says a lot, those are real journalists that have a conservative world view, Daily Kos is a website where anybody can post, full of hatred, smears, threats, and intimidation, don't you see a pattern with Obama, all of these people, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, all of them Obama was clueless on their bad behavior, come on.

I know the difference. My point was, and you said it yourself, the national review is conservative and certainly not a bipartisan place to cite sources you find, just like dailykos is a liberal website, that while I enjoy reading at times, I would not use anything on there as a source to prove any facts.

And people "spewing hate, smears, threats, and indimidation?" That is the epitomy of the Republican campaign philosophy. As I said before, people that are in McCain's rallies are yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" during speeches. I dont hear that kind of hate from Obama supporters.

The Daily Kos does not have journalists, any jerko can post, that National Review post is from Stanley Kurtz who had to sue or threaten a lawsuit just to see the University records on the relationship between Ayers and Obama, he is reporting what he has seen.

So now the McCain campaign is responsible for every utterance at their rallies.

I hope to God no violence occurs in any U.S. presidential election but just as Jodie Foster or The Catcher in the Rye was not the reason Reagan was shot, nothing the McCain campaign has said would be the reason for any possible violence.

A crazy person is simply crazy, they can justify their violence in all sorts of ways, it is meaningless, if The Catcher in the Rye was never written, John Lennon still would have been shot, the nutbag assassin would have just used another book or perhaps the bible, when you are crazy you can find reasons to to commit violence from a box of Cheerios.

Charlie Manson claimed inspiration from the Beatles White Album. Obama's associations are fair game, if Obama gets elected a lot of his supporters are going to be surprised at what a typical politician he is, I really think some of the Obama bots think this guy is going to change the world.

Stop the whining.

As Francesa might say, Talk to me in November.

Well, they kind of are inciting those responses when talking about Obama's associations, insinuating that he his a terrorist loving, America hating person. If McCain and Palin were talking about taxes and the economy at their rallies, people would not be yelling out those things.

I dont believe Obama will change the world. That is crazy talk and anyone who said that is delusional. I do think he can restore our standing around the world with our allies and improve our economy.

And you are right, talk to me in November, but if you dont beleive these polls as of right now.....I have a bridge to sell you up in Alaska. :)

Palin had dealings with Joe Vogler (founder of the Alaskan Independence Party) and Todd Palin knew Vogler and was a member until 2002. This is the group that wanted to secede from the United States.

Vogler was quoted saying, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

and also, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Sounds pretty radical to me.
You know he had guns.

Then their was Rev. Muthee. The guy that layed hands on Mrs. Palin, prayed to make her governor, and to cast the witches out. Well Muthee lead a lynching mob of 200 with guns in his country to oust one particular woman he claimed was a witch or else. They shot a snake claiming it was an evil spirit and the woman left town never to be heard from again.

Sounds frick'in nuts to me.

I'll let McCain explain. He thinks these attacks aren't valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW-RO1_WN0

Two things to say to you buddy:

1) Exactly what "dealings" did Sarah have with this Joe Vogler?

And secondly, Sarah's preacher from the lies youve told me, and as far as I know, is not a fraction of as bad as Obama's spiritual leaders. (former).

seriously two people is all you got compared to Obama's lineup of wackos??! (Ill give you Sarah's preacher, even though he didnt say anything racist, or hateful like obamas preachers did)

I mean SERIOUSLY...

Two things to say to you buddy:

1) Exactly what "dealings" did Sarah have with this Joe Vogler?

And secondly, Sarah's preacher from the lies youve told me, and as far as I know, is not a fraction of as bad as Obama's spiritual leaders. (former).

seriously two people is all you got compared to Obama's lineup of wackos??! (Ill give you Sarah's preacher, even though he didnt say anything racist, or hateful like obamas preachers did)

I mean SERIOUSLY...


Please don't call me buddy!!
Hey was that call in to Roberts this morning?

Please don't call me buddy!!
Hey was that call in to Roberts this morning?

huh????????

This idea that Ayers is a different or changed man is absurd. On the morning of 9/11, the NY Times published a story about him in which he himself said that the only regret he has about what took place in the 60's is that HE DIDN'T DO MORE. Does that sound like a guy who saw the error of his ways and reformed himself? Please.

I'll tell you what; for a state that usually favors Democrats (New Jersey) heavily, I've been seeing a LOT more McCain/Palin signs lately. However, someone above me made a good point. I think a lot of people really are afraid to express their views or make it known who they're voting for. This country is so polarized right now. I've never seen people with such a hard-line stance on an election. It's become a good guy-bad guy scenario. If you have different political beliefs, you're un-American or evil. It's a little sick if you ask me. Whatever happened to moderates? Whatever happened to respectfully disagreeing with each other? We need to start remembering that we're Americans first. Party affiliation should be secondary.

This idea that Ayers is a different or changed man is absurd. On the morning of 9/11, the NY Times published a story about him in which he himself said that the only regret he has about what took place in the 60's is that HE DIDN'T DO MORE. Does that sound like a guy who saw the error of his ways and reformed himself? Please.

I'll tell you what; for a state that usually favors Democrats (New Jersey) heavily, I've been seeing a LOT more McCain/Palin signs lately. However, someone above me made a good point. I think a lot of people really are afraid to express their views or make it known who they're voting for. This country is so polarized right now. I've never seen people with such a hard-line stance on an election. It's become a good guy-bad guy scenario. If you have different political beliefs, you're un-American or evil. It's a little sick if you ask me. Whatever happened to moderates? Whatever happened to respectfully disagreeing with each other? We need to start remembering that we're Americans first. Party affiliation should be secondary.

Nah, the media already crowned Obama king. We are a media-driven society. You think the average schmuck knows anything about finances? Hell no. They are into the hype, celebrity, cult of personality of BHO.

Yes, certainly we are just as divided as ever, very strange election on a number of fronts. I have seen one presidential sign on a lawn, exactly 1, a normal election would produce hundreds.

As the good Reverend Wright mentioned in the above post it will be very interesting to see what happens considering that Obama has gotten the best free media advertising in the history of presidential elections, truly stunning.

It has reached propaganda like proportions. By the way, the public financing deal that McCain accepted should be mandatory, there should be campaign donation and spending limits, Alfred E. Newman would be leading in the polls if he could reproduce the ad saturation that Obama presently has.

Almost as if Obama is Big Brother, you can't escape his gaze, magazine covers, radio ads, tv ads, billboards, and now video games, I'm expecting Obama to pop up as a trailer before the next major movie I attend. It truly is incessant.


It's definitely turned me off. BTW, did you happen to see those You Tube videos where little kids are singing songs in praise of Obama? It's definitely moved into the category of disturbing. As if these kids even know what they're singing or talking about. Yeah, 4-year olds have political views. I just hope the undecideds swing toward McCain because the Obama kool-aid drinkers are hopeless. He could kill a litter of puppies and they'd still vote for him at this point.

McCain last nght issed some great opportunities

Under Obama, the country could quickly move to a situation where nearly 50% of all Americans will ride tax free.

According to the non-partisan Tax Foundation's estimate under Obama's plan 63 million Americans (44% of all tax filers) would be absolved of their income tax liability, and most of them would receive a gravy train check from the federal gov't.

Obama says he wants to spread the wealth around. Has he noticed that its been disappearing ?? Taxing those with the wealth will only make it disapear quicker.

2) Obama says we only have 3% of the world's oil but he overlooks the Fact that this stat DOES NOT include:

The estimated 200 billion bbls. of oil trapped below the Bakken Formation, an area that stretches from North Dakota to montana.

Nor does it include the more than 130 billion bbls off our coasts that Congress has put off limits.

Nor the 1.2 to 1.8 TRILLION barrels of shale oil in the Green River Formation in Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah.

Nor the Alaska Artic National Wildlife Refuge where 10 billion to 20 billion bbls of easily tapped oil has been sitting idle.

Obama just ignores (with McCain's help) today's geological and technological rwalities when it comes to drilling for oil in the US.

3) If both candidates want to improve math and science skills, they should offer a tax credit that would ONLY go to those who major in math, science, engineering, nursing, pharmacy, computer science, etc.

A $4,000 tax credit for all college students who do 100 hrs. of so-called community service (you can be sure they will be steered to organizations like ACORN) is a waste of time.

I have zero sympathy for those who go to third tier private schools and major in some relatively worthless course of study and then complain that they have unmanageable student loan debt and lousy job prospects.

No one is forcing you to go to a third tier school and accumulate outlandish student loan debt. Go to CCNY, Queens, Baruch, Hunter, etc. Go to a community college for your first 2 years.

4) Obama is not a supporter of vouchers but he has no problem sending his kids to a private school that charges somewhere between $15K and $20K annually for each child. Hey Senator, how about spreading the wealth when it comes to education ???

5) McCain made no mention that Obama has promised that one of the first things he will do as POTUS is sign The Freedom of Choice Act. The bill, for those not aware, would efectively cancel every state, federal and local regulation of abortion, no matter how modest or reasonable. Obama is even more liberal than Barbara Boxer when it comes to abortion.

How the Catholic Chuch invites Obama to tonight's Al Smith Dinner is a disgrace. They didn't invite Kerry in 2004, and they shouldn't have invited Obama tonight.

6) Obama is a committed leftist. He was only one of 22 senators who did not vote for confirmation of Justice John Roberts. So much for Obama the so-called "moderate".

7) Does anyone actually believe a $3,000 tax credit will create jobs?? I don't think too many employers are going to create a job solely based on this tax credit. Heck the credit would barely cover administrative costs. Futher, it's not going to help the small business person (who is a net job creator) since the same business will be hit with a whopping tax increase.

8) See that Obama' supporters are now going after Joe the Plumber and will try to portray him as a racist. So much for easing up on negative campaigning by Obama and his friends.

9) Obama says he doesn't like to pay taxes. However, he will be living rent free for possibly the next 8 yrs. and he will not have to pay for food or gas, or a new car. He will essentially have no bills. Perhaps he would like to either pay more of his salary in taxes or work for $1 a year (after all the country is in it's worst finacial condition since the 1930's) He doesn't need the money since he has virtually no expenses. Does anyone not believe he will receive a multi-million dollar book deal some day as well as huge speaking engagement fees ??? Hey, Senator share YOUR wealth. Let the rest of us keep ours !!

10) Obama said that poor performing teachers should be kicked out of the system. Sounds great. Try to do this in NYC. By the way, has anyone noticed the great performance of those in the Chicago public school system ?? How many years was Obama was an Illinois State Senator?? What a joke !!!!

That's what I can't stand about liberals and their views on wealth. It's OK for them to make lots of money, but if someone outside of their circle does so, they must be corrupt and need to be punished through heavy taxation.

Obama is a bull!@#$ artist of the highest order. How people can't see through him is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled about McCain/Palin either, but I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw him.

Where are all the people to claim that Colin Powell is a crackpot who doesn't understand the military?

Where are all the people to claim that Colin Powell is a crackpot who doesn't understand the military?

General Powell is free to endorse anyone he wants. He isn't a crackpot and he fully understands the challenges that the military faces. However, I really don't think it was have a meaningful impact on the election.

For him to say the endorsement has nothing to do with race is a little disingenuous, IMO. Does anyone actually believe that??

I think if we are honest we knew he wasn't going to endorse MCCain and risk being called an Uncle Tom. There is a certain and obvious self interest attached to his endorsement.

Obama is probably going to be elected POTUS and Powell doesnot want to be on the wrong side of history.

General Powell is free to endorse anyone he wants. He isn't a crackpot and he fully understands the challenges that the military faces. However, I really don't think it was have a meaningful impact on the election.

For him to say the endorsement has nothing to do with race is a little disingenuous, IMO. Does anyone actually believe that??

I think if we are honest we knew he wasn't going to endorse MCCain and risk being called an Uncle Tom. There is a certain and obvious self interest attached to his endorsement.

Obama is probably going to be elected POTUS and Powell doesnot want to be on the wrong side of history.

Don't turn this into a race thing.

He may have been convinced about the intel, but he was very reserved over whether or not we go into Iraq with all guns blazing.

This endorsement is indicative of his feelings towards his former employers of what they did and made him do.

Don't turn this into a race thing.

He may have been convinced about the intel, but he was very reserved over whether or not we go into Iraq with all guns blazing.

This endorsement is indicative of his feelings towards his former employers of what they did and made him do.

If you don't think race played a meaningful role in his decision you are living in dream land.

He does not want to be branded an Uncle Tom. It's that simple. Now that Obama is virtually assurred of becoming POTUS he wants to be on the "right" side of history. You can be sure Powell is thinking about his own legacy and how he is portrayed in the African American community.

Now that McCain campaign is going down in flames he found the courage to abandon his friend.

This was decision was based, to a meaningful degree, on tribal politics. There is nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it.

I have no idea what he was talking about when he said he didn't want the next 2 Supreme Court Justices to be nominated by a Republican. I found that somewhat interesting since the last 2 (John Roberts and Sam Alito) were supported by every single Republican Senator. Heck, Roberts was confirmed by a vote of 78-22.

Perhaps, Powell is no longer a Republican.

The General is free to support/endorse any candidate his desires. That is his right. He is somewhat disingenuous, however, when he says it wasn't (to some degree) about race.

If he supported his friend McCain, he would have been the only visible African American on the national stage who did not support Obama. He wasn't going to be the odd man out.

whatever respect i had for powell, he just lost it.

Isn't this guy same guy who was in lockstep with Bush re: Iraq in 2002 and told the U.N Security Council that they were an imminent threat unless we acted? These guys can never make their minds up.

Even more amazing is the fact that Powell says that Biden is qualified to be POTUS due to his foreign policy experience and his past decisions yet Powell disagreed with Biden on many of the major foreign policy decisions of the recent past.

I guess he thought no one would notice.

Even more amazing is the fact that Powell says that Biden is qualified to be POTUS due to his foreign policy experience and his past decisions yet Powell disagreed with Biden on many of the major foreign policy decisions of the recent past.

I guess he thought no one would notice.

Biden can see NJ from his house, you no every so often they venture over to Delaware and Biden takes care of them. wink wink

Even more amazing is the fact that Powell says that Biden is qualified to be POTUS due to his foreign policy experience and his past decisions yet Powell disagreed with Biden on many of the major foreign policy decisions of the recent past.

I guess he thought no one would notice.

That's what happens when the liberal media gives one party a total pass. If Tom Brokaw were any kind of real journalist, he would have grilled Powell about this.

McCain is a ***** for not bringing up Reverend Wright. If his campaign had pounded the Rev into the limelight for the past three months, he wouldn't be losing the battleground states.

But no, "Mr. Honor" McCain says its off the table?

So character is off the table ? WTF.

His base had to pull teeth for senile McCain to even bring up William Ayers.

I'm done with this guy. I'm skipping the vote this year. Obama may be president, but Barry needs to be careful what he wishes for. Four years with a deteriorating economy is not gonna be solved by his celebrity status.

And if Biden's wisdom proves correct, we're in for a heap of ****.

And no, I'm not some bitter old white guy. I'm 21 yrs old and Cuban-American. I'm against socialism, marxism, and "spreading the wealth around". I was born in a country run by ruthless murderer, a guy who endorses Obama.


I was getting excited about voting for the first time, but it looks like the media decided the election by absolutely refusing to expose Obama. And in New York, its not like its gonna make one difference.

Enjoy your country, all you crazy white liberals. Thanks a lot for voting in Bammy.

McCain is a ***** for not bringing up Reverend Wright. If his campaign had pounded the Rev into the limelight for the past three months, he wouldn't be losing the battleground states.

But no, "Mr. Honor" McCain says its off the table?

So character is off the table ? WTF.

His base had to pull teeth for senile McCain to even bring up William Ayers.

I'm done with this guy. I'm skipping the vote this year. Obama may be president, but Barry needs to be careful what he wishes for. Four years with a deteriorating economy is not gonna be solved by his celebrity status.

And if Biden's wisdom proves correct, we're in for a heap of ****.

And no, I'm not some bitter old white guy. I'm 21 yrs old and Cuban-American. I'm against socialism, marxism, and "spreading the wealth around". I was born in a country run by ruthless murderer, a guy who endorses Obama.


I was getting excited about voting for the first time, but it looks like the media decided the election by absolutely refusing to expose Obama. And in New York, its not like its gonna make one difference.

Enjoy your country, all you crazy white liberals. Thanks a lot for voting in Bammy.

Couldn't agree more. I'm 26 and feel the same way. A lot of Obama's support is coming from young, naive kids my age and a little younger who don't know any better. It's gonna be ugly. I just hope Obama doesn't do too much damage. I can definitely see another Jimmy Carter in him. Hopefully, the Republicans rebuild and cultivate someone who can kick his *** in four years if the !@#$ hits the fan, which I think it will.

McCain is a ***** for not bringing up Reverend Wright. If his campaign had pounded the Rev into the limelight for the past three months, he wouldn't be losing the battleground states.

But no, "Mr. Honor" McCain says its off the table?

So character is off the table ? WTF.

His base had to pull teeth for senile McCain to even bring up William Ayers.

I'm done with this guy. I'm skipping the vote this year. Obama may be president, but Barry needs to be careful what he wishes for. Four years with a deteriorating economy is not gonna be solved by his celebrity status.

And if Biden's wisdom proves correct, we're in for a heap of ****.

And no, I'm not some bitter old white guy. I'm 21 yrs old and Cuban-American. I'm against socialism, marxism, and "spreading the wealth around". I was born in a country run by ruthless murderer, a guy who endorses Obama.


I was getting excited about voting for the first time, but it looks like the media decided the election by absolutely refusing to expose Obama. And in New York, its not like its gonna make one difference.

Enjoy your country, all you crazy white liberals. Thanks a lot for voting in Bammy.


McCain is not going near the Rev. because he is thinking about his own leagacy.

McCain would rather go down in flames and not target Obama's 20 yr. "association" with Wright than run the risk of being labeled as someone who according to the liberal media used the race card to incite fear in an effort to advance his campaign.

As a suggestion you may want to buy a copy of the new Art Laffer and Steven Moore book "The End of Prosperity". Its a good read and I think you would enjoy it.

Couldn't agree more. I'm 26 and feel the same way. A lot of Obama's support is coming from young, naive kids my age and a little younger who don't know any better. It's gonna be ugly. I just hope Obama doesn't do too much damage. I can definitely see another Jimmy Carter in him. Hopefully, the Republicans rebuild and cultivate someone who can kick his *** in four years if the !@#$ hits the fan, which I think it will.

totally agree with you. All the 20 year olds and even across the board,you see people captivated by this man who served how many days in senate before running for president? his rhetoric is dry and it does not mean anything.

AND, I know just the young blood for this republican party you speak of: Bobby Jindal who is the governor of louisiana. Hes young, fresh and new and I would vote for him as president. Very, very inteligent man..

a little risky for some republicans that are racist (cause hes of indian descent), but that doesnt bother me in the slightest, as I dont care about those things. I do know he would be a great option for the republicans.

[QUOTE=Zepman2393;182808]totally agree with you. All the 20 year olds and even across the board,you see people captivated by this man who served how many days in senate before running for president? his rhetoric is dry and it does not mean anything.

A lot more then 20 somethings are behind this guy.

The bottom line is the guy new he could more or less win the "Kerry States" and focused his campaign on GOP turf going back to before he was the nominee.

Honestly I was a Hillary supporter until the debate they had in NC way back when, I never thought he would even win the primary but he has inspired me. For the record I am a 44 year old airline pilot/MMD fan and not a lazy unemployed 20 something.

Overall I say good job out of all of us for never making this a personal attack against each other. Let the debate continue.

totally agree with you. All the 20 year olds and even across the board,you see people captivated by this man who served how many days in senate before running for president? his rhetoric is dry and it does not mean anything.

AND, I know just the young blood for this republican party you speak of: Bobby Jindal who is the governor of louisiana. Hes young, fresh and new and I would vote for him as president. Very, very inteligent man..

a little risky for some republicans that are racist (cause hes of indian descent), but that doesnt bother me in the slightest, as I dont care about those things. I do know he would be a great option for the republicans.

I would vote for Jindal too. I'm not so sure on his stances. I'm sure the white far-right conservatives will vote him in because he's Christian and pro-life.

But man, does it get little scarey when a some random plumber can get his character assassinated by the media for standing up to Obama? So Joe the Plumber gets vetted in 3 days more than Obama in a year. Insane.

[QUOTE=Zepman2393;182808]totally agree with you. All the 20 year olds and even across the board,you see people captivated by this man who served how many days in senate before running for president? his rhetoric is dry and it does not mean anything.

[QUOTE=Zepman2393;182808]

A lot more then 20 somethings are behind this guy.

The bottom line is the guy new he could more or less win the "Kerry States" and focused his campaign on GOP turf going back to before he was the nominee.

Honestly I was a Hillary supporter until the debate they had in NC way back when, I never thought he would even win the primary but he has inspired me. For the record I am a 44 year old airline pilot/MMD fan and not a lazy unemployed 20 something.

Overall I say good job out of all of us for never making this a personal attack against each other. Let the debate continue.

hey, i did say "20 year olds and across the board", so i did mention that its more than just the youngsters.

I would vote for Jindal too. I'm not so sure on his stances. I'm sure the white far-right conservatives will vote him in because he's Christian and pro-life.

But man, does it get little scarey when a some random plumber can get his character assassinated by the media for standing up to Obama? So Joe the Plumber gets vetted in 3 days more than Obama in a year. Insane.

How right you are..

Joe was scrutinized by liberal media and media in general, and reports came out that he didnt pay his taxes, that he wasnt a licensed plumber, hundreds of media people swarmed his house for 2 weeks.

Its amazing what happens when someone trys to threaten the integreity of the great "chosen one" in this counrty. They get swallowed up. All the man did was ask a question! If people by now havent noticed the media is in the tank for Obama, then their just plain dumb.

How right you are..

Joe was scrutinized by liberal media and media in general, and reports came out that he didnt pay his taxes, that he wasnt a licensed plumber, hundreds of media people swarmed his house for 2 weeks.

Its amazing what happens when someone trys to threaten the integreity of the great "chosen one" in this counrty. They get swallowed up. All the man did was ask a question! If people by now havent noticed the media is in the tank for Obama, then their just plain dumb.

Couldn't agree more. It's amazing how quickly the media works when they're motivated. If only they made this much effort in getting to the bottom of the Obama/Ayers connection.

People were worried about an Orwellian influence on this country ever since 9/11. We may get it, but not from the people you expected it from. I can see it now. Every excuse in the book will be made for Obama if the economy doesn't turn around once he's in office. They never gave Bush a pass for anything, despite having some of the most difficult sets of circumstances any President ever had to deal with.

Political suicide if Reverend Wright doesn't make an appearance, still waiting for a major 527, there have been some small ones.

If I was McCain, I would drop a major ad buy on Halloween and blitz the airwaves with Wright stuff the entire final weekend, put the final seeds of doubt in the voters heads, give the uninformed a little history lesson on Obama, watch the media go crazy and attack McCain further spreading the Wright info, there will be no time left so McCain won't have to explain.

You do that, you win.

IMO, the chances of that happening are less than zero. McCain knows it's over. Even voters age 65 and over prefer Obama 51 to 42 according to The Wall Street Journal's front page story today. Even Drudge reports that this will be a Gipper like landslide.

McCain is not going to play the Rev. Wright card. It's too late.

That's what I can't stand about liberals and their views on wealth. It's OK for them to make lots of money, but if someone outside of their circle does so, they must be corrupt and need to be punished through heavy taxation.

Obama is a bull!@#$ artist of the highest order. How people can't see through him is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled about McCain/Palin either, but I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw him.

Worth reading Adam Lerrick's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal today on page A17.

He asks: What happens when a majority of voters are net beneficiaries of government??

Sooner or later a core group of Obama enthsiasts will see their $100K-$150K incomes targeted.

As entitlements expand and a self-interested majority (that don't pay income taxes) votes, the higher tax rates will kick in at lower levels down the ladder, all the way to households with a $75K income.

IMO, the chances of that happening are less than zero. McCain knows it's over. Even voters age 65 and over prefer Obama 51 to 42 according to The Wall Street Journal's front page story today. Even Drudge reports that this will be a Gipper like landslide.

McCain is not going to play the Rev. Wright card. It's too late.

I'm sure his promise that seniors making less than $50,000 won't pay federal income taxes put him over the top in that group.

It does look like an Obama sweep at this point, so I guess all I can do is hope that my instincts about him are wrong. Who knows? Maybe he'll surprise me and do a good job.

I'm sure his promise that seniors making less than $50,000 won't pay federal income taxes put him over the top in that group.

It does look like an Obama sweep at this point, so I guess all I can do is hope that my instincts about him are wrong. Who knows? Maybe he'll surprise me and do a good job.

Perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part, but I think he will hold off on the tax increases for at least a year. I would also think his health care package will be put on the back burner for at least a year.

He has the luxury, if you want to label it as such, of having a recession in the early part of his administration. If we pull out of it in good fashion he will be sitting pretty, all things being equal, when he runs for re-election.

Worth reading Jon Meacham's cover story in latest Newsweek. He states that America is a center right country and as such Obama may surprise some by being more moderate than most expect. I guess everything is relative at this point.

Perhaps it is wishful thinking on my part, but I think he will hold off on the tax increases for at least a year. I would also think his health care package will be put on the back burner for at least a year.

He has the luxury, if you want to label it as such, of having a recession in the early part of his administration. If we pull out of it in good fashion he will be sitting pretty, all things being equal, when he runs for re-election.

Worth reading Jon Meacham's cover story in latest Newsweek. He sattes that America is a center right country and as such Obama may surprise some by being more moderate than most expect. I guess everything is relative at this point.

He has already backed away from his left-leaning stances on some issues because he knows he has to. I don't think an ultra-liberal (or an ultra-conservative) can be elected in this country. Look at how badly Goldwater was defeated in '64. Even his proposed tax increases are pretty modest when compared to where rates have been historically. The highest-earning tier paid a 90 percent income tax rate during the Great Depression and World War II.


That's true; barring a total economic collapse, things should improve by the middle of next year. He'll probably get two terms as long as he doesn't totally fumble up. Even if he's just an average President, he's going to look great in most people's eyes when compared to Bush. Fair or not, that's how it is.

totally agree with you. All the 20 year olds and even across the board,you see people captivated by this man who served how many days in senate before running for president? his rhetoric is dry and it does not mean anything.

AND, I know just the young blood for this republican party you speak of: Bobby Jindal who is the governor of louisiana. Hes young, fresh and new and I would vote for him as president. Very, very inteligent man..

a little risky for some republicans that are racist (cause hes of indian descent), but that doesnt bother me in the slightest, as I dont care about those things. I do know he would be a great option for the republicans.

As Joe Scarborough said a few days back the future of the Republican Party lies with JEB BUSH.

Perhaps he and Jindal will run in 2008 or 2016.

Couldn't agree more. It's amazing how quickly the media works when they're motivated. If only they made this much effort in getting to the bottom of the Obama/Ayers connection.

People were worried about an Orwellian influence on this country ever since 9/11. We may get it, but not from the people you expected it from. I can see it now. Every excuse in the book will be made for Obama if the economy doesn't turn around once he's in office. They never gave Bush a pass for anything, despite having some of the most difficult sets of circumstances any President ever had to deal with.

Investor's Business Daily has an interesting opinion article by Phyllis Schlafly called The Transformative Pedagogy Of Bill Ayers in their paper today.

As Joe Scarborough said a few days back the future of the Republican Party lies with JEB BUSH.

Perhaps he and Jindal will run in 2008 or 2016.

Jeb Bush? Bad idea. They've got to distance themselves from the Bushes as much as possible. If not, all Democrats have to say is, "How did the last Bush administration work out for us?" It would be a slam-dunk for them.

On the Democratic front, Hillary said that she's probably not going to run again. Of course, she could be playing possum, but if she's being honest, who could be the next up-and-coming Democrat? John Edwards is finished, so it won't be him.

On the Democratic front, Hillary said that she's probably not going to run again. Of course, she could be playing possum, but if she's being honest, who could be the next up-and-coming Democrat? John Edwards is finished, so it won't be him.

Rahm Emmanuel has been getting pumped up by the Dems alot lately...watch for him in the future...

Rahm Emmanuel has been getting pumped up by the Dems alot lately...watch for him in the future...

Who will replace Obama in The Senate : Emmanuel or Jesse Jackson Jr. ????

Jeb Bush? Bad idea. They've got to distance themselves from the Bushes as much as possible. If not, all Democrats have to say is, "How did the last Bush administration work out for us?" It would be a slam-dunk for them.

On the Democratic front, Hillary said that she's probably not going to run again. Of course, she could be playing possum, but if she's being honest, who could be the next up-and-coming Democrat? John Edwards is finished, so it won't be him.

Lots of stuff can and will happen in the next 8 yrs. Don't write off Jeb so quickly. He is considered to be extremely talented and was a popular governor.

He also has a strong following (at least in Florida) among the Hispanic community (a growing demographic).

Predicting the future is very tricky who knows how Iraq will look years from now, or if we are attacked under an Obama administration, or the economy could experience a prolonged period of slow growth and a resurrgence of inflation,, or Russia and/or China become more aggressive. Of course many of these events may never occur.

Never say never and always expect the unexpected.

Lots of stuff can and will happen in the next 8 yrs. Don't write off Jeb so quickly. He is considered to be extremely talented and was a popular governor.

He also has a strong following (at least in Florida) among the Hispanic community (a growing demographic).

Predicting the future is very tricky who knows how Iraq will look years from now, or if we are attacked under an Obama administration, or the economy could experience a prolonged period of slow growth and a resurrgence of inflation,, or Russia and/or China become more aggressive. Of course many of these events may never occur.

Never say never and always expect the unexpected.

True. You've got to take it day by day in today's world. Things can change so quickly. If Obama turns out to be another Jimmy Carter, the balance of power could rapidly swing back to the Republicans and people might say, "Hey, maybe they weren't so bad after all."

Yeah it is over, congratulations, the only thing we have to wait for is too see how much of a mandate Obama receives.

MikeFrancesa.com will be reporting live from Grant Park in Chicago on Election Night to document it all.

it aint over yet man

we got this

I know it. I refuse to give up. fu-ck the polls..

It's interesting about Obama in that if he does indeed win that because of the expectations of his supporters he will either be an awful president or a great one. The bar has been set high.

As for McCain if he loses he has nobody to blame but himself. During this campaign instead of being the guy who as a result of his relative honesty, realness and centrist leanings that led him to become one of the most popular senator's in US history his campaign presented him as a typical Republican which he never was. He has been pandering more to the Republican base than to the American people and I just don't get that in an election where most voters don't like the Republican base. I almost feel bad for him and hope the campaign won't damage his legacy because he has been a great American. Truth be told he was up against in 2008, that said the real tragedy was that he wasn't elected President in 2000 which he would have been were it not for what Karl Rove and the Bush campaign's dirty tricks.

I was just messing with him, far from over, if Obama does lose these people are going to be on life support, he's just a politician, he's not going to change the world.

I'm almost hoping he does win, so we don't have to hear his kool-aid drinking worshippers (not all of them, just the lunatic fringe who think he's some sort of god) piss and moan.

Try to listen to Rep. John Mica's (R-Florida) comments today in The House Oversight Committee.

Really went after Fannie, and Freddie.

Said hearings on these GSE's will be held on Nov. 20 after the election.

Implied it was done to protect Obama.

Try to listen to Rep. John Mica's (R-Florida) comments today in The House Oversight Committee.

Really went after Fannie, and Freddie.

Said hearings on these GSE's will be held on Nov. 20 after the election.

Implied it was done to protect Obama.

Great. We elect the bum, then find out he's a crooked SOB. God bless our government. They always find a way to (in Carton's words) screw the pooch somehow.

Investor's Business Daily has the race as follows as of today : Obama 45.7%, McCain 42.0%, Undecided 12.3%.

IBD was the most accurate poll in 2004.

Great. We elect the bum, then find out he's a crooked SOB. God bless our government. They always find a way to (in Carton's words) screw the pooch somehow.


If anyone is to be blamed its Henry Waxman who scheduled the hearing for Nov. 20.

Investor's Business Daily has the race as follows as of today : Obama 45.7%, McCain 42.0%, Undecided 12.3%.

IBD was the most accurate poll in 2004.

Boy, that 12.3 percent undecided portion is huge, especially with only 12 days left. Based on the last election when 140 million people voted, that means 16,800,000 people still haven't made up their minds. Still plenty of time for a huge shift in either direction.

This afternoon's latest Investor's Business Daily tracking poll:

Obama 44.8%, McCain 43.7%, Undecided 11.6%


IBD was most accurate poll in 2004.

This afternoon's latest Investor's Business Daily tracking poll:

Obama 44.8%, McCain 43.7%, Undecided 11.6%


IBD was most accurate poll in 2004.

I don't know why so much effort is put into those national polls, when the real action is in the state by state electoral count.

Damn, just checked Drudge, the front story is a woman who had a B carved into her face just because she was a McCain supporter, Jesus this is the most vitriolic and toxic campaign I have ever seen, so much hate, this specific incident is not going to play over well with America.

Fair or not, at what point do the majority of Americans say enough of this madness, and vote for McCain. Seriously folks, if this is the atmosphere how will it be under an Obama presidency, if you criticize the One, expect to get bullied and ridiculed.

It wasn't a political act. She was the victim of a mugging, and the piece of garbage decided to go one step farther.

I skimmed the story, I thought it said that she had a McCain sticker and that is why the maniac carved a "B" into her face????

Yeah but this was after he beat her up and robbed her at an ATM.

this "guy" is a real piece of work. I hope some local catches him and meets out some street justice.

Their webpage is a little strange, do you have a link to that poll in which it updates daily??

Thanks.

It's on Drudge.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said.

Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.
The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

Shocking that no one has posted about this since, but it turns out she made the whole thing up, which just about anyone above the age of two could have immediately figured out. Especially since it was a backwards B, which was the first clue to police that this lunatic did it to herself in a mirror.

Damn, just checked Drudge, the front story is a woman who had a B carved into her face just because she was a McCain supporter, Jesus this is the most vitriolic and toxic campaign I have ever seen, so much hate, this specific incident is not going to play over well with America.

Fair or not, at what point do the majority of Americans say enough of this madness, and vote for McCain. Seriously folks, if this is the atmosphere how will it be under an Obama presidency, if you criticize the One, expect to get bullied and ridiculed.

Mod, I agree. There is so much hate and people are so angry. People are so angry that Obama might win and have gone so far off the deep end that they are carving stuff in their own face and blaming random black guys to frighten everyone into not voting for the black candidate.

If people want to vote for any candidate, because they agree with him or her on the issues, that's great. That's what democracy is about. But, if people are going to vote for or against someone out of fear and anger or to "stop the madness" as you put it, then that's just beyond moronic. It doesn't seem possible to me that a rational human being would believe that an Obama presidency would mean people who disagree with him being randomly attacked in the street.

And, if you are so appalled at the idea of being bullied or ridiculed for criticizing a President Obama, can I assume you were equally appalled by the fact that criticizing Bush in the run-up to the Iraq War meant having your patriotism questioned?

Shocking that no one has posted about this since, but it turns out she made the whole thing up, which just about anyone above the age of two could have immediately figured out. Especially since it was a backwards B, which was the first clue to police that this lunatic did it to herself in a mirror.

Sick. I don't know how else to describe this. It amazes me how far people will go.

Regardless of the outcome of the election, this nation is more divided and polarized than ever and probably will continue to be for quite some time. We had a few incidents of political signs being stolen or vandalized in my hometown . Someone took an Obama sign from a lawn and another person's McCain sign was destroyed. You'd like to think that these are just fringe lunatics doing this stuff, but this behavior seems to be more and more common today.

BTW, I heard on the radio this morning that 1 in 7 voters (14.2 percent) are still undecided. This is huge. The decision these people make will swing the election. I just hope they make an informed one.

Sick. I don't know how else to describe this. It amazes me how far people will go.

Regardless of the outcome of the election, this nation is more divided and polarized than ever and probably will continue to be for quite some time. We had a few incidents of political signs being stolen or vandalized in my hometown . Someone took an Obama sign from a lawn and another person's McCain sign was destroyed. You'd like to think that these are just fringe lunatics doing this stuff, but this behavior seems to be more and more common today.

BTW, I heard on the radio this morning that 1 in 7 voters (14.2 percent) are still undecided. This is huge. The decision these people make will swing the election. I just hope they make an informed one.

I totally agree with you. I work in DC and worked on Capitol Hill for 10 years, before going to work for a non-profit, so I love politics. But, I can't wait for this to be over. Presidential elections make otherwise really smart people (on both sides) completely lose their minds.

Also agree about the undecided voters. This will end up being close. The one thing I have to say is that I live in Virginia and my wife and I voted early. The early voting line was two hours the other night, and the people working the polls said there was an hour line when they opened at 8AM. That means voter turnout could be enormous. Conventional wisdom is that is good for Dems, but who knows?