JabbatheFrancesa 11-30-2006, 12:58 PM I really wonder how tough it must be to put on this show. Seriously! What do they do? They must come in like five minutes before 1:00 p.m. They don't call up and set up interviews. How many vacation days do they get? They are gone for most of the Summer. Not even to talk about how much they get paid for a days work. I'd love to see Mike and the Dog get paid what they are really worth. How about $11 an hour? Haha. The problem with them is that they are so out-of-touch with the guy who is 18-35. I remember how Mike used to always argue about how policemen, firemen, and teachers should get raises. This all took place during the West Side stadium deal. Why don't you sell the front door of your house? I bet ya it cost you $60,000. Or maybe your refrigerator, or your oversized tub... LOL.
On an unrelated note. Give Minko and Houssler a chance . They have earned a show.
SportsFan 11-30-2006, 01:09 PM M&MD have no concern for the blue collar crowd that has made them rich.
This was evident in their conversation with Bill Ayres a few weeks back.
Oh Really 11-30-2006, 01:47 PM its the easist job on earth to talk sports in general
its even easier when your mike and chris and now dont even have to pay attnetion to whats going on and can look up numbers on a computer..
Lawnmower 11-30-2006, 06:42 PM Let's be fair (another Dogism) about their job. I'm sure it's easy to them at this point and we realize they put no preparation into their work, but it would not be easy for the average person.
However, I remember one time Pat Riley said to them, "No one has it easier than you two" and Mike seemed very defensive. He likes to think that he's a hard working guy because he works Sundays for four months during the year.
jerome 11-30-2006, 07:24 PM this is the biggest compliment you can give these two idiots.
reason being is they MAKE their job look easy. lets face it, they dont nearly do as much 'research' as they used to but they are so head and shoulders above anyone on the station (and others!) it isnt even worth discussing. they can still carry the show on their limited homework because they are that good.
they have been doing it for along time and with a great deal of success you cant take that away from them. can they stay "on top of the game" like during 96 for instance, nope but they have zero competition or ........they are just so good they make it look like they have zero competition.
i guess in the end, i disagree and give these guys credit for what they do and have done. thats why i listen and thats why i post.
SportsFan 11-30-2006, 08:21 PM It's not an easy job. That's why they don't do it.
say something funny mike 11-30-2006, 08:41 PM its the easist job on earth to talk sports in general
its even easier when your mike and chris and now dont even have to pay attnetion to whats going on and can look up numbers on a computer..
If it was so easy even Malusis could do it. It's easy to talk about sports, it's not easy to do it well and dominate the industry for 15 years. They have made it look easy and have still managed to keep the show entertaining (for me).
The Poster 12-01-2006, 12:09 AM It's not an easy job. That's why they don't do it.
That is a damn funny line right there.
On another note, it may seem easy to talk about sports, but lets be fair. It is tough to sit there and talk about one subject for 5-6 hours. Plus they have to be entertaining.
With that said, if I had a job like that, I would never, ever complain about anything in life again. Forget M&MD, we should be lucky to get paid money period to talk about sports. Everyone at WFAN, ESPN 1050, and sports stations across the country are very, very lucky people. Hell, we talk about sports for free on this board, and there have been several times where this board is more entertaining than anything M&MD have ever done.
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-01-2006, 05:20 PM It is an easy job, let's be honest.
In relation to many of the jobs that people work, sitting on your *** talking sports, while collecting 1M+ per year is not difficult. Their job is to watch sports, analyze them, and provide an opinion. They are also paid to conduct interviews with sports personalities and take phone calls from the public, one that totals 15M in the tri state area.
Don't get me wrong, they are the best at what they do and earn the salary that they receive for a reason. Where Mike and Chris excel is that they seem to lack a conscience when it comes to interviews. They ask the tough questions and rarely toss up the softball stuff that so many radio hosts do so around the country.
We could argue this several ways. That they have maintained such a strong level for so long is difficult. The money that they bring in is also enviable. The actual work that they do, however is not difficult. They don't watch the games sports like they used to and basically ignore the three other major sports. They also hold the callers hostage by deciding what they would like to talk about.
How hard would my job be if I called the shots? It could be more difficult having to research and stay on top of hockey, basketball, baseball, football, etc, but then again, I could jsut say "no, we'll get to that at 5", do my 10 minutes on the subject and call it a day, while discussing what I want for 5 hours.
Not on Mickey's Birthday 12-01-2006, 09:10 PM It is an easy job, let's be honest.
In relation to many of the jobs that people work, sitting on your *** talking sports, while collecting 1M+ per year is not difficult. Their job is to watch sports, analyze them, and provide an opinion. They are also paid to conduct interviews with sports personalities and take phone calls from the public, one that totals 15M in the tri state area.
Don't get me wrong, they are the best at what they do and earn the salary that they receive for a reason. Where Mike and Chris excel is that they seem to lack a conscience when it comes to interviews. They ask the tough questions and rarely toss up the softball stuff that so many radio hosts do so around the country.
We could argue this several ways. That they have maintained such a strong level for so long is difficult. The money that they bring in is also enviable. The actual work that they do, however is not difficult. They don't watch the games sports like they used to and basically ignore the three other major sports. They also hold the callers hostage by deciding what they would like to talk about.
How hard would my job be if I called the shots? It could be more difficult having to research and stay on top of hockey, basketball, baseball, football, etc, but then again, I could jsut say "no, we'll get to that at 5", do my 10 minutes on the subject and call it a day, while discussing what I want for 5 hours.
Great post. I agree 100% - especially the part about holding the callers and listeners hostage, that's exactly what they do. It's a really good way to hide their weaknesses and i used to not notice. But after listening for so long, it's so transparent to me now.
I'm sorry but the work they DO is not difficult. The difficult part is trying to replicate their personalities and the chemistry that is a result of the contrasts. I mean you have to admit these guys are characters. To me that's their most important attribute.
Icelanders 12-04-2006, 07:00 AM this is the biggest compliment you can give these two idiots.
reason being is they MAKE their job look easy. lets face it, they dont nearly do as much 'research' as they used to but they are so head and shoulders above anyone on the station (and others!) it isnt even worth discussing. they can still carry the show on their limited homework because they are that good.
they have been doing it for along time and with a great deal of success you cant take that away from them. can they stay "on top of the game" like during 96 for instance, nope but they have zero competition or ........they are just so good they make it look like they have zero competition.
i guess in the end, i disagree and give these guys credit for what they do and have done. thats why i listen and thats why i post.
Right on Jerome....To me if it is so easy, than why in NY in one of the biggest sports markets there is, is there not one other sports talk show that is worth listening to. Thats why I would say it is a somewhat difficult job.
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-04-2006, 10:30 AM this is the biggest compliment you can give these two idiots.
reason being is they MAKE their job look easy. lets face it, they dont nearly do as much 'research' as they used to but they are so head and shoulders above anyone on the station (and others!) it isnt even worth discussing. they can still carry the show on their limited homework because they are that good.
they have been doing it for along time and with a great deal of success you cant take that away from them. can they stay "on top of the game" like during 96 for instance, nope but they have zero competition or ........they are just so good they make it look like they have zero competition.
i guess in the end, i disagree and give these guys credit for what they do and have done. thats why i listen and thats why i post.
Right on Jerome....To me if it is so easy, than why in NY in one of the biggest sports markets there is, is there not one other sports talk show that is worth listening to. Thats why I would say it is a somewhat difficult job.
I think, Ice, that I could actually use the lack of competition as an argument as to why their job is easy.
Again, as I, posted previously, Mike and Chris are the best at what they do for a reason. They get the interviews that are difficult to obtain and they also bring in a **** load of money.
Mike and Chris, however, are not as good as they used to be. There is no competition and they have grown lazy. They feel there is no need to follow up on the local sports and they seem to completely ignore the games altogether. They don't research and when someone disagrees witht hem, the person is shouted down and hung up on. There is no debate.
Had there been better comp, it would force these two clowns to be better prepared. The fact that they don't have to watch as many games makes their jobs a hell of a lot easier.
Icelanders 12-04-2006, 11:17 AM I would tend to disagree with that. If it is so easy to do their job then why can noone else do it, is pretty much what I feel. If its so easy then why cant 1050 find someone to come in and do what they do. To me it gets to a point where you say its not that there is no competition, there are people out there, its just that they cant compete with M&MD. Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.
That being said I dont disagree that M&MD have slipped but to me they still do enough to get me to tune in regularly.
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-04-2006, 12:22 PM I would tend to disagree with that. If it is so easy to do their job then why can noone else do it, is pretty much what I feel. If its so easy then why cant 1050 find someone to come in and do what they do. To me it gets to a point where you say its not that there is no competition, there are people out there, its just that they cant compete with M&MD. Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.
That being said I dont disagree that M&MD have slipped but to me they still do enough to get me to tune in regularly.
Their job is easy. How difficult is it to watch sports, come on the air, and voice an opinion? Now, if you want to argue about the results, that is a different story. Mike and Chris, as I said previously do a great job bringing in revenue to the station.
Their jobs are made even easier when you factor in ESPN and the Internet. Mike and Chris have acess to a ton of info. Again, coming on the air and being the host of a sports talk show is not difficult, it is not brain surgery. They do not have far to look to find information to fuel their show; it is easily accessible. If they miss anything, there are a ton of replay shows and Tivo/DVR makes it almost impossible for them to be misinformed, yet how often have we heard the say "I didn't watch that"?
Mike and Chris also host a show in a city that have a ton of sports teams and fans. Ever tried getting through to their show? Their audience is set. Just looking at what the local teams did yesterday, how many people do you think will be clamoring for their phones, jonesing to talk Giants/Jets?
I think most of us agree that Mike and Chris are good at what they do, but it is what it is. They talk sports. That they lack competition makes their job even easier, since they do not have to struggle to keep their fan base or even do research. There is no threat to their jobs. The lack of competition is due in part to their abilities, but let's be honest. Overall, the formats stink. I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that we've listened for so long to these guys. We're used to them. We're familiar with them.
Icelanders 12-04-2006, 01:43 PM I would tend to disagree with that. If it is so easy to do their job then why can noone else do it, is pretty much what I feel. If its so easy then why cant 1050 find someone to come in and do what they do. To me it gets to a point where you say its not that there is no competition, there are people out there, its just that they cant compete with M&MD. Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.
That being said I dont disagree that M&MD have slipped but to me they still do enough to get me to tune in regularly.
Their job is easy. How difficult is it to watch sports, come on the air, and voice an opinion? Now, if you want to argue about the results, that is a different story. Mike and Chris, as I said previously do a great job bringing in revenue to the station.
Their jobs are made even easier when you factor in ESPN and the Internet. Mike and Chris have acess to a ton of info. Again, coming on the air and being the host of a sports talk show is not difficult, it is not brain surgery.
I think most of us agree that Mike and Chris are good at what they do, but it is what it is. They talk sports. That they lack competition makes their job even easier, since they do not have to struggle to keep their fan base or even do research. There is no threat to their jobs. The lack of competition is due in part to their abilities, but let's be honest. Overall, the formats stink. I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that we've listened for so long to these guys. We're used to them. We're familiar with them.
If its as easy as you say than why cant WFAN or ESPN find one other host who is worth listening to. You seem so obsessed with complaining about how easy Mike and Chris have it and how they have slipped so much, but you cant seem to answer why noone has come along that is even worth listening too. Talking sports is easy having a sports talk show that is interesting and worth listening to is not.
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-05-2006, 05:23 PM I would tend to disagree with that. If it is so easy to do their job then why can noone else do it, is pretty much what I feel. If its so easy then why cant 1050 find someone to come in and do what they do. To me it gets to a point where you say its not that there is no competition, there are people out there, its just that they cant compete with M&MD. Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.That being said I dont disagree that M&MD have slipped but to me they still do enough to get me to tune in regularly.
Their job is easy. How difficult is it to watch sports, come on the air, and voice an opinion? Now, if you want to argue about the results, that is a different story. Mike and Chris, as I said previously do a great job bringing in revenue to the station.
Their jobs are made even easier when you factor in ESPN and the Internet. Mike and Chris have acess to a ton of info. Again, coming on the air and being the host of a sports talk show is not difficult, it is not brain surgery.
I think most of us agree that Mike and Chris are good at what they do, but it is what it is. They talk sports. That they lack competition makes their job even easier, since they do not have to struggle to keep their fan base or even do research. There is no threat to their jobs. The lack of competition is due in part to their abilities, but let's be honest. Overall, the formats stink. I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that we've listened for so long to these guys. We're used to them. We're familiar with them.
If its as easy as you say than why cant WFAN or ESPN find one other host who is worth listening to. You seem so obsessed with complaining about how easy Mike and Chris have it and how they have slipped so much, but you cant seem to answer why noone has come along that is even worth listening too. Talking sports is easy having a sports talk show that is interesting and worth listening to is not.
That a host has yet to be found doesn't mean that their job isn't easy. Again, what is so hard about what they do?
The best thing about Mike and Chris is their chemistry, plain and simple. Hands down, Mike and Chris have chemistry. That is something that you can't create, it either works or it doesn't, like with almost any relationship. We're not talking about a wideout and a qb working ont heir timing, we're talking about styles. Their style works. That is not something they created.
Again, I gave credit where it's due. Mike and Chris bring in a great deal of money, ask hard hitting questions, and take advantage of their divergent styles, but please, spare me the nonsense about their job being tough. They have a built in audience, and have the luxury of not taking many calls and even when they do, they could hand pick what they want to talk about.
In fact, I could argue that their competitors have a tougher job, simply because they are the new kids on the block, so to speak, and have to not only attempt to cut into M&MD's share, but also cover far more ground with sports.
Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.
Captivating? Please. Do a poll here and find out how many people on this board listen non stop for 5+ hours. You'd be lucky to find a handful.
What is so captivating about Mike and Chris coming on the air on a Fall Monday and talking about some Japanese pitcher I've never heard of for five hours?
What is so captivating about Mike and Chris ignoring football for hours, while discussing hot stove baseball?
In fact, what the hell is so captivating about them period? The only time I'm compelled to listen is after a huge collapse by a local team, and you know damn well the chance of that being anything other than baseball is slim.
The point is, they rarely discuss anything other than baseball, and on the rare occassion they do, the skim over it quickly, as if it were in the way. The only reason why their job might be difficult is because they make it so. By ignoring the other three major sports, they make it harder on themselves, but then again, they're huge baseball fans, know little of the other sports, and pcik and choose what they discuss.
ScooterBug 12-05-2006, 07:22 PM Also, it isn't the knowledge of the host that makes the job easy, it's how the host comes across to the listener - his voice, tone, and interest.
People on this board rip some of the newbies (Roberts, Burkhardt, etc.), but that really is an indication of how they carry off a show. Especially for an extended shift - on the air from midnight to 6 AM is a great deal different than 1-6:30PM. Look at the number of posts on this board that say Joe B was better on overnights instead of 10-1.
Plus, a solo show can be tough if only because the listener will get tired of the hosts voice after a while, and if there aren't enough callers or differeing opinions, it becomes a one-trick pony.
Yes, it is alarming at the obvious gaps in basic sports knowledge many hosts have - M&MD included. Callers and sports fans often seem to know more (or claim to know more) than the host(s) - and those listeners spend 8+ hours a day at a job that doesn't include following sports. But, if a host limited a show to one sport/topic for 3 or more hours, (s)he would be ripped here for not knowing about other sports. Thn, when a host branches out into other sports where (s)he may not be as strong - but it is the big story - they aren't nearly as polished, and a newer host will be less able to cover up for the leack of conversational knowledge. Russo waves of topics he doesn't grasp as unimportant, or with a vague, all-encompassing cliche answer.
Not to mention, hosting a show while hitting posts for comercial breaks, handling a person talking in our ear, sounding like you actually care about the listener, fitting long winded answers into short, fan-friendly statements (unlike this post, for example), and giving the audience a reason to listen past the open to you show in the first place.
Not saying it is brain surgery, nor am I saying it is brainless; more like somewhere in the middle, and it takes a certain person and personality to pull it off.
Not on Mickey's Birthday 12-05-2006, 07:50 PM I would tend to disagree with that. If it is so easy to do their job then why can noone else do it, is pretty much what I feel. If its so easy then why cant 1050 find someone to come in and do what they do. To me it gets to a point where you say its not that there is no competition, there are people out there, its just that they cant compete with M&MD. Talking sports is fun and easy, but doing it in a creative, entertaining way for 5 and a half hours, while keeping an audience listening and captivated is not that easy.
That being said I dont disagree that M&MD have slipped but to me they still do enough to get me to tune in regularly.
Their job is easy. How difficult is it to watch sports, come on the air, and voice an opinion? Now, if you want to argue about the results, that is a different story. Mike and Chris, as I said previously do a great job bringing in revenue to the station.
Their jobs are made even easier when you factor in ESPN and the Internet. Mike and Chris have acess to a ton of info. Again, coming on the air and being the host of a sports talk show is not difficult, it is not brain surgery.
I think most of us agree that Mike and Chris are good at what they do, but it is what it is. They talk sports. That they lack competition makes their job even easier, since they do not have to struggle to keep their fan base or even do research. There is no threat to their jobs. The lack of competition is due in part to their abilities, but let's be honest. Overall, the formats stink. I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that we've listened for so long to these guys. We're used to them. We're familiar with them.
If its as easy as you say than why cant WFAN or ESPN find one other host who is worth listening to. You seem so obsessed with complaining about how easy Mike and Chris have it and how they have slipped so much, but you cant seem to answer why noone has come along that is even worth listening too. Talking sports is easy having a sports talk show that is interesting and worth listening to is not.
Maybe this will make it easier to understand:
Talking sports daily and formulating opinions which are poorly researched, obliously not first hand (I didn't see it, but I have a take on it), often barely intelligible (given the fact that one of the host speaks a version of English which is unique to all us), and are completely agenda driven = easy
Gaining and eventually capturing market share from an entity, partnership or corporation that has not only been firmly entrenched in the marketplace for nearly 18 years, but regularly regarded as the pioneers of the said industry = not easy
They are two completely different things.
That's like saying, "ya know Budweiser doesn't produce a quality beer anymore, their quality has gone way down" - Then the reply is - "No Budweiser is great, if it wasn't so good they wouldn't sell so much - how come no one has passed them in revenue if they don't make the best beer?". The problem is Budweiser has been branded much like M&MD have been in NY. It's tough to take out the top dog, especially when the consumer starts to accept mediocrity without consequence, which is exactly what their show is, mediocre.
It's difficult to find any real value or significance in their opinions. I tune in more for their bantering and pure entertainment. Like I said before they're characters. It's the chemistry which is a biproduct of their contrast which is intereting. Mike is supposed to be so dialed into the NFL. When is the last time he broke a story? One that was accurate. Mike has a horrendous "feel" for the NFL. Guys who usually do a good job assessing the NFL are contrarians, those who go against the grain - because the NFL is such an upside-down league. In the end, Mike is just another square. He gets fooled by the same teams we do. He makes the same mistakes we do when breaking down a games. The way he carry's himself and the arrogance he displays, you would think he's rarely wrong. The reality is he's rarely right. Or he revises his opinion so he is (I knew all along, I just couldn't say anything).
Gun to your head 12-05-2006, 08:15 PM Great discussion guys ! I don't have much to add right now, maybe later. :-)
jerome 12-05-2006, 08:37 PM look no one is saying their job is like digging ditches or paving roads but this idea that what they do is easy is off base.
no one comes close to these two shitheads and that is reality, for whatever reason.
as for the baseball talk? well i have listened for two weeks now and heard nothing but football, college football, 2 authors, etc. lets pipedown with all the "all baseball all the time talk" (unless of course you cant add anything else to the discussion ala mike0421). i put on Max Kellerman and that guy could be talking about football and break into Boxing talk. huh! all hosts have their bias', deal.
Icelanders 12-05-2006, 09:57 PM Agreed Jerome being a sports talk is not like being a nuero surgeon, but its not easy. Talking about sports is just a part of what it takes to have a good sports talk show.
Lunchbox you cant sit there and tell me the show is not captivating or entertaining in a way, because you do not even live in NY and you spend as much time as anyone here (except maybe Jerome) on this board. So M&MD have you captivated, even if its only because you hate them so much. BTW do you even listen to the show because for the last two weeks it appropriately has been pretty muchwall to wall football, even though the winter meetings have started already, so the argument that all they do is talk baseball is really not working right now? And if you are listening to the show, it just shows how captivated you are :wink:
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-07-2006, 04:27 PM Agreed Jerome being a sports talk is not like being a nuero surgeon, but its not easy. Talking about sports is just a part of what it takes to have a good sports talk show.
Lunchbox you cant sit there and tell me the show is not captivating or entertaining in a way, because you do not even live in NY and you spend as much time as anyone here (except maybe Jerome) on this board. So M&MD have you captivated, even if its only because you hate them so much. BTW do you even listen to the show because for the last two weeks it appropriately has been pretty muchwall to wall football, even though the winter meetings have started already, so the argument that all they do is talk baseball is really not working right now? And if you are listening to the show, it just shows how captivated you are :wink:
I can do whatever I feel. Of course I can sit here and tell you the show isn't "captivating", because it's not. Tell me what is so captivating about the show? Maybe in your opinion the show is, but unfortunately for your arguments sake, you are in the minority. Few here find the show "captivating". It ususally boils down to the same talk, same discussion.
The last time the show was captivating was on Monday, after the Giants meltdown. I would definitely turn on the radio and listen to the Coughlin interview, but point out another time the show had you mesmerized?
See, the show USED to make me feel that way, but like many others here, I no longer feel the same. Outside of the Joe Crowley and Corey Lidle interviews, most of the time, their show offers the same thing.
BTW do you even listen to the show because for the last two weeks it appropriately has been pretty muchwall to wall football, even though the winter meetings have started already, so the argument that all they do is talk baseball is really not working right now?
Uh, no, I haven't listened lately, but from what I've gathered here, they have discussed fotoball much more.
Gee. Great. :? :roll:
I have to wait until December to get any decent football discussion from these two? Wow. I'm glad they found time in their hectic schedules to put aside baseball and discuss football. God forbid we have any football talk DURING football season. :roll:
It's funny. You point to the recent football discussion within the past two weeks, yet ignore the fact that these two have placed football on the backburner for months? Great. I've heard more baseball talk during football season than fotball and that is a fact. There are many here that agree, as well. So don't throw out two weeks of football talk and make it seem as if I should be greatful. It is bs. I expect more from them.
See, unlike you, I did notice how convenient it was for these two clowns to ignore arguably the biggest win of the season for the NY Jets(NE), and open their show with talk about some Japanese pitcher. The problem is that this is more often the norm, and not the exception.
The main reason why I do post here is because I like to reminisce about the old shows, the "good old days". Gun and Jerome, as well as others, have often brought up some classic stuff that I like to chime in on.
Oh, and by the way, I am not on this board nearly as much as some of the posters here. In fact, I dare you to find out how many threads I've actually started.
Oh Really 12-07-2006, 05:11 PM the people who say they talked about two weeks of football so they shouidnt complain are people who dont mind baseball 365 days a year
think of this, today a thursday a few days before the last 4 weeks of the season with BOTH teams in the middle of the playoff hunt and they did more time on moves that the RED SOX made and moves the yankees and mets didnt make!!
if thats not insane i dont know what is
Not on Mickey's Birthday 12-07-2006, 05:47 PM captivating
Such an odd word to describe M&MD. Strangely affectionate.
Why not just say you are "Enchanted", "Enthrawed", "Mesmorized", "Awestruck" by our heroes.
Just found it to be kinda funny.
Oh Really 12-07-2006, 06:49 PM Great thread.
I don't think it's a matter of how hard or not hard they work. I think it's about talent. These guys are both very talented, especially Chris.
I think the success of the show is mostly attibutable to Chris.
Clearly these guys are lazy, even moreso than Howard Stern. But just like Stern, these guys are talented and to a degree have earned that right.
I listen and/or watch about 2 hours a day if I can, and they talk a lot about baseball and I like that because to me it's all about baseball. But if I was a football fan #1 (as most people are these days), I would be very upset at how much they talk baseball in the off-season. But again, I can't get enough hot stove talk, so it's fine by me :D
They are the most talented guys out there, and talent comes at a high price.
thats fair
on a side why arent you a football fan at all? just wondering
Icelanders 12-07-2006, 09:11 PM captivating
Such an odd word to describe M&MD. Strangely affectionate.
Why not just say you are "Enchanted", "Enthrawed", "Mesmorized", "Awestruck" by our heroes.
Just found it to be kinda funny.
Whatever you want to call the fact is that if you spend time listening or watching the show and then come here and post obviously you have some sort of attachment to the show. Whether it is just to critize or hate on it or not.
Lunchbox, the fact that you dont even listen to the show but post as often as much as you do just hurts your rants.
Not on Mickey's Birthday 12-07-2006, 09:17 PM captivating
Such an odd word to describe M&MD. Strangely affectionate.
Why not just say you are "Enchanted", "Enthrawed", "Mesmorized", "Awestruck" by our heroes.
Just found it to be kinda funny.
Whatever you want to call the fact is that if you spend time listening or watching the show and then come here and post obviously you have some sort of attachment to the show. Whether it is just to critize or hate on it or not.
Lunchbox, the fact that you dont even listen to the show but post as often as much as you do just hurts your rants.
I agree with you, I just thought it to be a funny word - the way you and Lunchbox kept going back and forth while using the word captivating as the krux of your argument - pretty funny stuff, that's all.
Not on Mickey's Birthday 12-07-2006, 11:23 PM what does the "Not on Mickey's Birthday" name refer to... is there a story behind it?
On Oct 20th (Mickey Mantle's birthday) 2004, which was game 7 of the ALCS. Redsox fans kept calling the show saying they were gonna win. And the ****** arrogant jinx was fighting them off by repeadetly saying "Not on Mickeys Birthday", over and over and over. I kinda blame him for the loss because he jinxed us just like with the Kenny Rogers disaster this year and I still can't accept the collapse so I just blame Mike.
Ya know, the whole "I'll be SHOCKED" thing.
Mike is an embarrassment as a Yankee fan. I can't stand his pompeous, arrogant attitude - and the guy is a black cat, so my name is kind of tribute to his jinx ***.
Oh Really 12-07-2006, 11:28 PM what does the "Not on Mickey's Birthday" name refer to... is there a story behind it?
On Oct 20th (Mickey Mantle's birthday) 2004, which was game 7 of the ALCS. Redsox fans kept calling the show saying they were gonna win. And the ****** arrogant jinx was fighting them off by repeadetly saying "Not on Mickeys Birthday", over and over and over. I kinda blame him for the loss because he jinxed us just like with the Kenny Rogers disaster this year and I still can't accept the collapse so I just blame Mike.
Ya know, the whole "I'll be SHOCKED" thing.
Mike is an embarrassment as a Yankee fan. I can't stand his pompeous, arrogant attitude - and the guy is a black cat, so my name is kind of tribute to his jinx ***.
mike acts like he somehow has something to do with the teams winning,now that theyve not won a world series in awhile he claims its not "his type of players" and he hates them all,hes the postey boy for ******bag yankee fan
i realize why he doesnt root for a team in another sport, mikes egos so big can you honestly see him rooting for a bad or run of the millffrnachise his obsese *** couldnt brag about?
Icelanders 12-08-2006, 07:37 AM captivating
Such an odd word to describe M&MD. Strangely affectionate.
Why not just say you are "Enchanted", "Enthrawed", "Mesmorized", "Awestruck" by our heroes.
Just found it to be kinda funny.
Whatever you want to call the fact is that if you spend time listening or watching the show and then come here and post obviously you have some sort of attachment to the show. Whether it is just to critize or hate on it or not.
Lunchbox, the fact that you dont even listen to the show but post as often as much as you do just hurts your rants.
I agree with you, I just thought it to be a funny word - the way you and Lunchbox kept going back and forth while using the word captivating as the krux of your argument - pretty funny stuff, that's all.
Yeah perhaps not the greatest word to use to describe what I meant, but oh well. I think pretty much everything has been said that can be said on this issue,me and lunchbox will just agree to disagree.
Francesa's Lunchbox 12-08-2006, 12:38 PM captivating
Such an odd word to describe M&MD. Strangely affectionate.
Why not just say you are "Enchanted", "Enthrawed", "Mesmorized", "Awestruck" by our heroes.
Just found it to be kinda funny.
Whatever you want to call the fact is that if you spend time listening or watching the show and then come here and post obviously you have some sort of attachment to the show. Whether it is just to critize or hate on it or not.
Lunchbox, the fact that you dont even listen to the show but post as often as much as you do just hurts your rants.
Lunchbox, the fact that you dont even listen to the show but post as often as much as you do just hurts your rants
Now I'm ranting? You did nothing to address any of my arguments, or those of Not On Mickey's B'day, so all you can say is that I rant?
:D
Ok, whatever. What does my participation on this board have to do with the ease of Mike and Chris' job? Are you Ro? One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Maybe it's difficult for you to understand, but I am a fan of the show, and have fully admitted that Mike and Chris are the best at what they do, yet I also disagree with the idea that their job is "difficult".
Ok, I get it. I think you are the one that is "OBSESSED" since you defend you husband so blindly. I appreciate your faith and loyalty :D
I am glad that you find your hubby to be so "CAPTIVATING". Here, have a Diet Coke on me. :o
I guess we will just agree to disagree.
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