I dont think Mike should get any nfl gm job anytime soon

vince lombardi jr said in the most condescending way during draft time that vince young cannot play in the nfl and that the system he was in at texas was a playground system basically saying young is dumb as a rock

looks like young can play the positon in the nfl

even scouts dont get draft picks right but mike was so sure and arrogant about his opinion im glad young is shoving it up his ***

NBA GM too.

He didn't like Dwayne Wade out of college and was salivating for the Knicks to draft Channing Frye. I hope Frye is not a bust though.

I think Mike has cursed Greg Oden from Ohio State. He hasn't seen him play and thinks he's the next great player.

NBA GM too.

He didn't like Dwayne Wade out of college and was salivating for the Knicks to draft Channing Frye. I hope Frye is not a bust though.

I think Mike has cursed Greg Oden from Ohio State. He hasn't seen him play and thinks he's the next great player.

yeah mike claimed wade couldnt make it because he had no jumper

he also claimed nick collison was gonan be special and just a level below carmelo and lebron during the draft

And lets not forget the man love for Mike Mamula, one of the biggest busts in NFL history.

I remember Mike absolutely killing Steve McNair just prior to the draft. People would call in, saying McNair would be a great player, and Mike would go apeshit, saying that McNair played against "inferior competition" at Alcorn State and that his numbers were "piled up". He didn't think McNair would be a franchise quarterback and thought he would be out of the league in a few years.

:D

Now, McNair is probably his favorite player. :wink:

Another player Mike was wrong on was Brian Griese. As a Michigan fan and alum, I distinctly remember Mike saying, after Michigan beat Washignton State, that Griese didn't have the tools to make the NFL and would also be out of the league in a few years.

A few years later, Griese was a Pro Bowler. :o

Now, Griese hasn't had a Hall of Fame type career, but he has been a solid pro and proved Mike to be very wrong.

A few years later, Griese was a Pro Bowler. :o

Now, Griese hasn't had a Hall of Fame type career, but he has been a solid pro and proved Mike to be very wrong.

cmon bro, you are REACHING with Griese.......if he was worth anything he'd be starting RIGHT NOW.

Rex is a piece of ****.

A few years later, Griese was a Pro Bowler. :o

Now, Griese hasn't had a Hall of Fame type career, but he has been a solid pro and proved Mike to be very wrong.

cmon bro, you are REACHING with Griese.......if he was worth anything he'd be starting RIGHT NOW.

Rex is a piece of ****.

Reaching for what? Goodyear claimed the guy would be lucky to be in the league and shortly after he was a Pro Bowler.

That's a reach? You can't be serious. :shock:

Oh, and before his injury, Griese had Tampa at 5-1 last year. Think Tampa regrets letting him go?

I also disagree with your reasoning on his value. Lovie Smith fully believes Grossman to be the franchise qb. Sitting Grossman might do him more hard than good. I don't think this proves Greise to be a bust, it just shows Lovie's faith in Rex. Griese has proved that he can start in the NFL and has won a fair share of games. He can start.

As a Bears fan, however, I'd love to see Grossman have a seat and Griese start in his place.

Rex is a piece of ****.

Hopefully your talking about Rex Hudler, because Rex Grossman is the future of that franchise. Earlier in the year he was an MVP canidiate. Like many young QB's he's had a problem with turnovers of late. Luckily for him and his coach, Chicago's D is good enough to overcome it. But at the end of the day Rex is a good young QB with lots of upside. I remember Favre had the same kind of problems early in his career and his QB rating sucked because of so many INT's. In 1993, after Favre had 30 starts under his belt, he threw 24 INT's with a rating of 72.2. Even after Favre had eight full years in the league and 3 MVP's he produced a year with 23 INT's and a rating of 74.7 - that was 1999. Who knows if he'll ever be as good as Favre - I doubt it, but to just dismiss him as "a piece of ****" is just foolish. His stats have taken a beating, especially since Berrian (his deep threat) went out with an injury. But with any young QB there will be ups and downs. I personnally think the guy is has a lot balls and he's going to be really good.

Another thing you have to understand about the Bears is Lovey doesn't want Grossman to just "manage the game". He wants him to get verticle and be agressive. The Bears were on the verge of getting blown out last year at home to Carolina, but Rex sacked up, showed a lot of guts and rallied that team in the second half.

Coming into this year Grossman only had about 9 starts. That means he has around 21 starts in his career and most likely he'll be playing in the Super Bowl this year.

there are plenty of examples to give but Griese is not a great player nor is he even good there are guys like kitna and plummer - who replaced him- starting while he rides the bench and signed knowing he would

there are plenty of examples to give but Griese is not a great player nor is he even good there are guys like kitna and plummer - who replaced him- starting while he rides the bench and signed knowing he would

That's fair, but Grossman isn't "a piece of ****"

another mike gem

larry fitzgerald is too slow hell be a slot possesion receiver

A very old Francesa tirade I remember was when him and Joe Beningo had a spirited debate over the merits of Warrick Dunn's work at FSU, and whether it warranted first round draft pick status. Beningo argued that it did, and Francesa vehemently objected, saying he would be a second day NFL draft pick, due to his lack of size, and that at best, he was a change of pace/third down back. Ultimately, the Bucs picked him in the second round (closer to Beningo's prognostication) and thus far has proven Francesa wrong in spades, having an incredibly productive NFL career.

A very old Francesa tirade I remember was when him and Joe Beningo had a spirited debate over the merits of Warrick Dunn's work at FSU, and whether it warranted first round draft pick status. Beningo argued that it did, and Francesa vehemently objected, saying he would be a second day NFL draft pick, due to his lack of size, and that at best, he was a change of pace/third down back. Ultimately, the Bucs picked him in the second round (closer to Beningo's prognostication) and thus far has proven Francesa wrong in spades, having an incredibly productive NFL career.

ive always had the opinion mike basically asks bill his opinions on players before the draft and mike takes that and runs with it as his opinion on the player

mike already did some damage control for bill with passing on meriman saying bill knew all along the guy had character issues

conveneintly mike didnt tell us till after merrman was caught with taking steroids

there are plenty of examples to give but Griese is not a great player nor is he even good there are guys like kitna and plummer - who replaced him- starting while he rides the bench and signed knowing he would

That's fair, but Grossman isn't "a piece of ****"

im sorry, maybe i should say "the future ISNT now for the Bears and Rex"
he isnt a piece of **** but he is doing his best to lose games.

there are plenty of examples to give but Griese is not a great player nor is he even good there are guys like kitna and plummer - who replaced him- starting while he rides the bench and signed knowing he would

That's fair, but Grossman isn't "a piece of ****"

im sorry, maybe i should say "the future ISNT now for the Bears and Rex"
he isnt a piece of **** but he is doing his best to lose games.

He definately isn't playing well right now, but we are still a month before the playoffs start so there will be ample time for Rex to get his **** together. And if they do get home field throughout I think Rex will lead them to the Super Bowl. I just don't see anyone knocking them off at Soldier Field in January. I know it happened last year but it just seems like the Bears year.

yeah, i guess when you are playing Better teams in the playoffs when everything is on the line youd feel very comfy with a QB that has a 1.3 QB rating with 34 passing yds and 3 picks.

good luck with that.

yeah, i guess when you are playing Better teams in the playoffs when everything is on the line youd feel very comfy with a QB that has a 1.3 QB rating with 34 passing yds and 3 picks.

good luck with that.



Well since I had to deal with Trent Dilfer having similar games to what Grossman had yesterday going into the playoffs in 2000, I wouldn't panic, at all - especially with that Defense and a good running game and a great special teams player in Devin Hester. Listen I've been there before, when you have the best defense in the league you can be defecient in other area's and still win it all. Even at QB.

Dilfers last 5 lines from 2000 (before Super Bowl):

at Arizona - 12-22-1 70 yds 0 TD 3.18 YPA 41.9 QB rating
Vs NY Jets - 11-25-2 99 yds 1 TD 3.96 YPA 35.5 QB Rating
Vs Denver - 9-15-0 115yds 1 TD 9.29 YPA 118.2 QB Rating
at Tennessee - 5-17-0 117 yds 0 TD 7.31 YPA 58.8 QB Rating
at Oakland - 9-18-1 190 yds 1 TD 10.56 YPA 83.1 QB Rating

3 of those games are absolutely atrocious. I still have no idea how we beat Tennessee with Dilfer's performance. I honestly think Grossman is capable of much better than this.

Hey bottom line, Grossman's rating was 100.8 through the first 5 games. Since then he's been awful. However, if he stops turning the ball over, with that defense, running game, special teams & home field advantage, the Bears are going to the Super Bowl.